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| The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5641 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 33 of 1702 12 June 2011 at 12:14am | IP Logged | |||||
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The term "drama" is very vague when it comes to Asian dramas. They're not all soap operas. There's a variety of genres.
Places to stream them would be dramacrazy.net and mysoju.com. Places to download them would be d-addicts, AM-Addiction, and MyAsianCinema. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Adodger Diglot Newbie United States Joined 4906 days ago 5 posts - 9 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Spanish | Message 34 of 1702 12 June 2011 at 12:15am | IP Logged | |||||
I am clueless as to why anyone would say this and am interested to know why you think this. FWIW, I learned hirigana and katakana in TWO DAYS. That is, I could read it. Hirigana and katakana are simply alphabets. They just look bizarre. Kanji has complexities beyond a simple alphabet. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5176 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 35 of 1702 12 June 2011 at 2:10am | IP Logged | |||||
They made a few points in that you can make educated guesses at meanings of words by knowing part of the kanji for compound words... I can do the same for German which uses a lot compound words without a visual alphabet but maybe the pictures are easier. Fact is I sorta gotta take their word for it. However, I really doubt I'm going to agree. You can't easily look up kanji in a dictionary the way you can with phonetic alphabets. As a learner that makes it hard. And I don't know how it's supposed to sound whereas with kana that part is ridiculously easy. Since I would read to improve my ability for the spoken language both listening and speaking I don't see how I'll like kanji ever. Thankfully for electronic texts there lots of tools to help you by converting it hiragana or even romaji. And I am and will be a newbie for a long time so I won't know for sure for a while. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Lasciel Groupie United States Joined 5365 days ago 55 posts - 81 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Japanese | Message 36 of 1702 12 June 2011 at 3:01am | IP Logged | |||||
There are a lot of Japanese words that are spelled the same with hiragana. The word "ki" can mean very many different things. If you have ki/き as 木 you know it means tree or wood. If you have ki/き as 気 this you know it means spirit. This 城 is read as "ki/き" as well and means fortress... hiragana-only texts can be a nightmare to read, in my experience. It's just much easier to read sentences that include kanji. Otherwise words can run together pretty easily >w< anyway if you find one of those kanji in a sentence looking them up you can find the right kanji and it's meaning... but with just き how would you know you have the right き's meaning? Edited by Lasciel on 12 June 2011 at 3:02am 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5176 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 37 of 1702 12 June 2011 at 4:07am | IP Logged | |||||
By the context. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5641 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 38 of 1702 12 June 2011 at 4:14am | IP Logged | |||||
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Once you get to a lower intermediate level, go read a Japanese book. Japanese without kanji is a nightmare.
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| Adodger Diglot Newbie United States Joined 4906 days ago 5 posts - 9 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Spanish | Message 39 of 1702 12 June 2011 at 3:58pm | IP Logged | |||||
I agree that it is by context that you should eventually develop an understanding. Much of Japanese relies on context, as a few words can imply different things, even though they have the same meaning. I think what you meant to say before, is that reading and understanding Japanese is easier with knowledge of both hirigana and kanji. Learning hirigana, in and of itself, remains wayyyyyyyyy easier than learning kanji. I gotta believe this is quite objective unless some people for some reason enjoy complex and lengthy learning instead of something quick and simple. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5641 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 40 of 1702 12 June 2011 at 7:36pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Japanese uses no spaces. So if the text were in all hiragana the chance for misunderstanding/misreading something is very high.
I understand where you two are coming from. All of us have been there. Once you learn more Japanese you'll appreciate kanji. 4 persons have voted this message useful |
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