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| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5176 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 585 of 1702 10 November 2012 at 7:22pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Hi Evita. Looking in the directory where I downloaded the jdrama torrents I definitely didn't see an .srt file or anything of the sort. I googled a little and haven't found subs yet. The Korean drama I'm watching (which I'm not really into yet) is called Faith (also the Doctor or something). I've watched part of the 1st episode. Basically I'm deciding to get into kdrama because so many come out on crunchyroll which is a website I read/watch daily for Japanese language shows. I keep seeing a new show being advertised and thinking it looks fun only to see that it's a kdrama. So I wanna watch those XD.
My classmate recommended Faith to me. It has a fun time traveling plot (I love time travel) so I expect to enjoy it. I ended up paying (gasp!) to download this series in HD instead of streaming. I tried googling for torrents but wasn't having much luck and just well I was tired, it was late, so I just paid. I think the legality is questionable and they might disappear but it's working at the moment. Their videos use .srt files though and I'm having no problems with the subs. The video quality is pretty good. Better than streaming.
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| g-bod Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5974 days ago 1485 posts - 2002 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, German | Message 586 of 1702 10 November 2012 at 7:58pm | IP Logged | |||||
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So, you so just got me listening to a couple of episodes on www.talktomeinkorean.com - I learned how to say hello and thank you. Well, my pronunciation is such a disaster (my weakest point when it comes to languages anyway) that it would be more appropriate to say I learned to understand hello and thank you. And then I listened to an intermediate all Korean lesson just to see what the language sounded like and yes, it sounds pretty cool. Hmmm...
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| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5176 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 587 of 1702 10 November 2012 at 8:32pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Well Korean uses a syllabary instead of an alphabet like European languages. I just finished flashcards for chapter 1 and chapter 2 is teaching the writing system. I'm doing both chapters together since I want to get in on the writing system right away.
Would have been nice if it used an alphabet. Oh well. I guess I've had a ton of practice with Japanese. Next I'm probably going to get confirmation that they don't put spaces between words. I'm never going to fully understand why eastern languages don't do this. I can see how with kanji / hiragana you sort of see natural boundaries without spaces but still.. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5176 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 588 of 1702 10 November 2012 at 8:33pm | IP Logged | |||||
LOL. I'll have to check that site out when I make some more progress. I'm going to stick to this textbook for at least a few weeks though. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Evita Tetraglot Senior Member Latvia learnlatvian.info Joined 6544 days ago 734 posts - 1036 votes Speaks: Latvian*, English, German, Russian Studies: Korean, Finnish | Message 589 of 1702 10 November 2012 at 9:22pm | IP Logged | |||||
Korean does have spaces between words so you don't need to worry about that.
I strongly recommend you start TTMIK right away or right after you have learned the alphabet. Their lessons move slower than the textbook - which I found to be a good thing. They introduce you to Korean as painlessly as possible, and you can learn correct pronunciation from the two hosts who are both native Korean speakers. They repeat each phrase many times over, both slower and faster. If you pay attention you can notice how the "l" sounds morph into "r" sounds in some cases, or how the "h" sound disappears if you speak quickly. There's also the problem of the similar sounds, like ㅈ, ㅉ, and ㅊ. The best way to learn to recognize and reproduce them correctly is by listening to them a lot and TTMIK is very good for that. Better than a book, in my opinion. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5176 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 590 of 1702 11 November 2012 at 1:47am | IP Logged | |||||
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Actually I'm almost done with the syllabary. I grabbed an app for a couple bucks in the app store and it's quite good. Of course it's so easy and logical you don't really need any tricks. I'm really impressed at how logically their syllables (letters) were put together. THERE ARE SPACES IN THE WORDS? WHY DIDN'T I KNOW THIS ALREADY? Sorry heh. I'm beginning to think this language is gonna be pretty nice after doing Japanese.
Yeah I noticed that I do not hear ANY difference at all between ㅈ and ㅉ... the ㅊ sounds different to my ear (at least how it was presented in this app) but the previous two are identical. There's another pair that is identical to my ear too but I can't type in Korean yet (I had to cut and paste what you did). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5176 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 591 of 1702 11 November 2012 at 5:53am | IP Logged | |||||
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Well I still haven't finished off that app with the syllabary. I was tackling a few phrases from chapter 1 of the textbook I'm going to use. Man my brain is a bit slow at reading these characters lol. Makes me miss Japanese. I watched some more of this Faith series and I'm really enjoying it a lot. But I'm watching an anime right now (Sword Art Online) and well lets just say I my Korean has a ways to go to catch up to my Japanese even if I'm really not happy with my Japanese.
*edit* It would be better to say that my Japanese has come a lot further than I've noticed. Darn thing gets better so gradually you never notice. Edited by kraemder on 11 November 2012 at 6:15am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| kraemder Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5176 days ago 1497 posts - 1648 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish, Japanese | Message 592 of 1702 11 November 2012 at 10:59pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Ok, I had a goal to finish the Chapter 3 worksheet packet this weekend and so I did that. It's ahead of everyone else in the class not that it's terribly difficult. There's a few problems I'd like to double check before passing in but overall good.
I can't help thinking that this semester is so much easier for me than last semester was. I still have a lot to learn but stuff like て form and plain form and well all teh verb forms jump right out at me whereas before it took my brain more time to process. And I had so much less confidence. Anyway, doing the packet so far in advance before never happened. Now it's not a problem at all. It takes time for sure, but it's very doable and doesn't give me a headache. I got headaches before. I'm hitting my old friend Harry Potter up again. I'm reading Chapter 2. It's a PDF and most of the text is ocr'd (and proofed by someone else besides me) so it's mostly correct. As a result I can stick in Firefox and use rikisama and furigana inserter. (i've explained this before but that was a while back). So it's a lot easier for me to read as a result. Anyway, I am finding it a lot easier. So that means my Japanese has gotten even better XD. It's nice to notice these improvements. I think I could actually put in the time and read the whole book and get a lot out of it now. Whereas before I found it useful but exhausting and really my time was better spent studying a textbook. The textbook still has a lot to teach but I can recognize the majority of the grammar structures now. So helpful! Even with this progress in Japanese I'm still going to be doing Korean a little bit. I plan to spend a little time tonight on the alphabet. I really want to get more comfortable with the alphabet before moving on to vocabulary etc. I'm gonna take it slow. I don't want it to hurt my Japanese, rather I want it to keep me fresh and interested in language learning. Edited by kraemder on 11 November 2012 at 10:59pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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