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| kujichagulia Senior Member Japan Joined 4839 days ago 1031 posts - 1571 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Portuguese | Message 145 of 706 15 March 2013 at 9:27am | IP Logged | |||||
Ah, I see. That makes sense.
The only one I know of for Portuguese is Lingro. It seems to work well most of the time, except with some conjugated verbs. Rikaichan is awesome for Japanese! Do you know of any others? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| kujichagulia Senior Member Japan Joined 4839 days ago 1031 posts - 1571 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Portuguese | Message 146 of 706 15 March 2013 at 9:32am | IP Logged | |||||
This is a great idea, Hasi! Actually, I tried this yesterday. I downloaded a timer software for my USB drive so I can use it anywhere. I set it to 30 minutes, then added stuff to Anki until it rang. It's amazing how fast 30 minutes goes when adding to Anki! Now that I think about it, no wonder I was feeling stressed about adding stuff to Anki. With no classes now at the school where I work, I sometimes take a break from planning lessons for the upcoming school year to add new cards to Anki, and I lose track of time. No wonder I burnout. Timeboxing is necessary for me, I think. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| kujichagulia Senior Member Japan Joined 4839 days ago 1031 posts - 1571 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Portuguese | Message 147 of 706 18 March 2013 at 5:34am | IP Logged | |||||
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Well, recently I added several cards into Anki with just the word on the front and an L1 or L2 definition on the back. Those cards were mixed in with my Anki reviews the past few days.
The verdict? Single word cards are boring and difficult for me. Here is a word I picked up while reading some sports news in Japanese the other day: 逆転 (gyakuten). It means "reversal; about face; complete turn-around." I put it into Anki, then first reviewed it the following day, and I had trouble remembering anything associated with the word. It took me longer than usual to learn the reading of the kanji and the meaning, so that I could press "Good". But I still had no idea how to use it. For example, it could be used as a noun or a verb （逆転する) It can be used with 大 to make 大逆転 (huge turn-around or big comeback). I could put that information into the card, but overall I can infer a lot of that from looking at an example sentence or two. Sentences also show the nuances of using the word (this seems to often be used in sports settings, for example). A sentence also makes it easier for me to recall the reading of the kanji, plus it's just more interesting to read a sentence instead of a word. So I've decided to just stick with sentences. But how to combat the stress I get from inputting sentences into Anki? Looking back at several of the recent posts in this thread (those with your helpful pointers and tips), I've put together a short list of tips to serve as a guideline for me. TIPS FOR MAKING DATA ENTRY INTO ANKI LESS STRESSFUL Be Selective When adding materials from any of my sources, I do not need to add everything to Anki in one go. It is better for me to just add the things that I can see myself putting to use RIGHT NOW, and are interesting to me. For my level of Portuguese, "I watch soccer on TV" is more practical and interesting than "In Brazilian society, the family structure dates from colonial times." In short, I'm not Neo from the Matrix; I can't feed the whole language into my brain in one go. I have to take it bite-by-bite (or byte-by-byte; both would make sense here - LOL), and I need to be choosy about what I feed myself. The Less Typing, The Better Instead of typing full sentences from my textbooks or other printed material, just type the word I want to learn into an online dictionary or Tatoeba.org or Google, find a sentence, and copy and paste. That'll save several seconds per card. If I'm using Tatoeba.org, I can even just click a button and save sentences with translations to a list, then download it in CSV format for input into Anki (if I want to do it that way). A bonus side effect is that I can learn the word not only in the context that I saw it in my textbook/source, but I can also learn it in the context of the sentence that I found online. Timebox I use timeboxing for Anki reviews (10 minutes per deck), so it makes sense to timebox my Anki input sessions as well. I downloaded some timer software, and I'm setting it to 30 minutes, and I just add cards until the timer beeps. The last time I did it, I was thinking, "Wow, only 30 minutes? That's fast! I have more cards to add!" This highlights my problem - when I start, I want to keep going and going and going... until I burn out. The timer will force me to take it easy and go slowly, which means less stress. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| kujichagulia Senior Member Japan Joined 4839 days ago 1031 posts - 1571 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Portuguese | Message 148 of 706 21 March 2013 at 7:47am | IP Logged | |||||
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Nothing useful in this post... Just wondering if I should split my language log into two: one for Japanese and one for Portuguese...
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| Brun Ugle Diglot Senior Member Norway brunugle.wordpress.c Joined 6612 days ago 1292 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English*, NorwegianC1 Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, Spanish, Finnish | Message 149 of 706 23 March 2013 at 6:29pm | IP Logged | |||||
Personally, I vote for one united log. It's nice to read about all your linguistic adventures even if I might not understand all the Portuguese bits. Also there is always a lot of stuff that can apply to more than one language, like the discussion about words vs sentences in Anki or how to make parallel texts. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| g-bod Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5974 days ago 1485 posts - 2002 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, German | Message 150 of 706 23 March 2013 at 8:54pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I think a single log is a good idea too. Reading about how you balance study of two languages is also valuable, I think. Plus I've been enjoying the discussions about Brazilian music, even though I have no intention of studying Portuguese at the moment!
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6589 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 151 of 706 23 March 2013 at 10:20pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Agreed! The opposite for me, I love finding out a little about Japanese while following your progress in Portuguese! :)
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| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5158 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 152 of 706 23 March 2013 at 10:43pm | IP Logged | |||||
Both options have pros and cons. I have opted for the separate logs for each language because I had started languages prior to the TAC and I mean to keep working on them after the TAC. Still, I think I could have written more useful posts if I had updated my progress at one log at once. I'd also be able to see the big picture of my overall progress. The way I'm doing it now, I even study different languages at different parts of the day, and for half of them I do limited study while for others I seem to employ more time. As if it weren't enough, I believe the language I'm working the most at and have the most to tell about is French, and that isn't even on my TAC list. Therefore, my French log is serving only as an actual log, like debugging logs you find in programming: it consists of the register of which resources I've used, punctuated with a few remarks here and there, which I ought to do in French but I'm not always in the mood to. I think people who are into Russian would get to know about Georgian and Norwegian, and so on. And I don't have a long on Mandarin Chinese at this forum, even though I've been struggling with it for the past 2 years. Anyway, that's how it is. Now I don't feel like creating a new log for a pair of languages. I'll have to stick to 1 language 1 log and take it as far as it is possible from a practical point of view. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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