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Iolanthe
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Speaks: English*, DutchC1
Studies: Turkish, French

 
 Message 33 of 88
18 May 2014 at 12:38pm | IP Logged 
Vos wrote:
Je gaat het super challenge ook meedoen, leuk! Heb je al een stapel boeken
op het oog? Ik ga met De Hongerspelen
beginnen en dan wat Nederlandse kinderklassiekers zoals Kinderen van Moeder
Aarde
lezen denk ik. Heb je al
wat mooie Nederlandse boeken gelezen?

Veel succes met het Super Challenge!


Bedankt Vos! Ik ben van plan om alle boeken uit Het Lied van Ijs en Vuur serie te
lezen.

Ik weet dat toen ik met Tadoku bezig was, ik de boeken van Adriaan van Dis heel
interessant vond. Ik heb nog nooit een roman van hem gelezen (maar misschien ga ik dat
dit jaar doen) maar zijn reisboeken zijn heel interessant. Hij is ook een heel
interessante man omdat hij veel talen spreek. Volgens mij spreek hij naast Nederlands
ook Frans, Duits, Afrikaans en Indonesisch (omdat hij in Nederlands-Indië geboren
werd). Omdat ik Frans leer op dit moment wil ik dit ook graag lezen
http://www.bol.com/nl/p/stadsliefde/1001004011542789/

Oh, en ik wil ook iets van Jelle Brandt Corstius lezen. Hij is een journalist die
Russisch spreekt en mooie documentaires over Rusland heeft gemaakt. Hij heeft ook een
paar reisverslagen uitgebracht dus die zou ik ook wel willen lezen.


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Iolanthe
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 Message 34 of 88
18 May 2014 at 12:40pm | IP Logged 
Stelle wrote:

What a lovely post to read! It's nice to see people taking joy in their language
learning. Continue le beau travail!


Merci Stelle! :)



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Iolanthe
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 Message 35 of 88
24 May 2014 at 11:38am | IP Logged 
Français
Slight confession that I haven't been doing quite as much French as I had hoped. Well,
after I started reading Persepolis I started to prefer doing Super Challenge activities
to actual study. I wish I was at the point when I could just read and read and read.
But...from the writing I've done I realised that I really need to work on my knowledge
of grammar. I think I need to keep a balance between real study and dipping into native
materials. I'm at the level where I can use native materials but not as my sole
resource.

Anyway, my current "routine" is:
Assimil NFWE active wave
Assimil Using French
Anki
Reading (not everyday)
RFI journal en français facile (when I remember)

Although I'm not fulfilling my own expectations, any progress is good progress. I'll
update my total study time later.


Dutch
I've been reading Het Spel der Tronen which is fantastic. My plan is to read all of the
Song of Ice and Fire books so I can be the holder of spoilers and tease my boyfriend
during the next season. However, I think I will get the next book as an ebook because
they are huge and not conducive to cosy reading.

Turkish
I have to learn this language. It's true love. But French needs my full attention and
the last thing I should do is jump into my first non-Indo-European language. So I've
given Turkish a promise ring with the intention of learning it when my French can stand
on it's own two feet. In the meantime I'll enjoy the plethora of amazing rock and
alternative music in the Turkish language.

I've also got a crush on Hungarian but I'm trying to resist.
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Iolanthe
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 Message 36 of 88
24 May 2014 at 5:33pm | IP Logged 
Super Challenge lists

-----French-----

Books
* Histoire de Pierre Lapin - Beatrix Potter (on Gutenburg)
* Le Petit Prince - Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
* Various A1/A2 readers eg Alex Leroc, Lucas sur la Route, Julie est
Amoureuse, La
Disparition
* Charlie et la Chocolaterie
* Fantastique Maître Renard

BDs
* Persepolis
* SOS Lusitania (tome 1)
* Abymes (tome 1)


Misc reading material
* Le Monde
* Madmoizelle.com

Films
* Potiche
* Le premier jour du reste de ta vie
* Populaire
* Et soudain tout le monde me manque
* La Grande illusion
* La Règle du jeu
* J'ai tué ma mère

TV
* Friends
* Le trône de fer
* Les Griffins
* South Park
* Les Reines du Shopping (reality tv)
* Nouveau look pour une nouvelle vie (reality tv)
* On n'est pas couché
* France 24
* Un Village Français



Edited by Iolanthe on 05 January 2015 at 10:13pm

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Iolanthe
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 Message 37 of 88
27 May 2014 at 2:57pm | IP Logged 
Français

Week 20: 589 minutes
Week 21: 473 minutes
Total: 12,452 minutes or 207h 32m

What I'm including in the study time: Assimil, other study, listening time, anki time,
time spent writing.
What I'm not including: time spent reading (too annoying to have to time it)
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songlines
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 Message 38 of 88
28 May 2014 at 3:55am | IP Logged 
Iolanthe wrote:
What I'm not including: time spent reading (too annoying to have to time it)


I know exactly what you mean, especially as I often can't get my reading time in longish, uninterrupted
chunks. - What about recording your reading by pages instead? - Even though the number of words per
page may vary from book to book (depending on typefaces/ typesize, layout, etc...), I find page-count a useful
enough measure; the variations from book to book seem to balance themselves out over time.



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Iolanthe
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 Message 39 of 88
31 May 2014 at 12:44pm | IP Logged 
songlines wrote:

I know exactly what you mean, especially as I often can't get my reading time in
longish, uninterrupted
chunks. - What about recording your reading by pages instead? - Even though the number
of words per
page may vary from book to book (depending on typefaces/ typesize, layout, etc...), I
find page-count a useful
enough measure; the variations from book to book seem to balance themselves out over
time.




I've been doing that for the Super Challenge and yes that is a much better way of
recording reading. I think it's very motivating too, especially if you're not yet able
to read without a dictionary and every page is an achievement.
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Jeffers
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 Message 40 of 88
02 June 2014 at 12:05pm | IP Logged 
Iolanthe wrote:

But...from the writing I've done I realised that I really need to work on my knowledge
of grammar. I think I need to keep a balance between real study and dipping into native
materials. I'm at the level where I can use native materials but not as my sole
resource.


A good balance is a great thing when you find it. I flicked through Benny's book
recently, and he mentioned the fact that he found grammars useful once he passed the
beginner stage because when he read about some verb or structure, he knew a bit about
it from use, and the grammar served to help him make sense of what he was already
experiencing. Currently, I'm doing nothing but using native materials (having finished
Assimil NFWE in April). It's great when I hear or read a phrase and recognize it from
Assimil. You know you're doing something right when the words you study from textbooks
come up in your reading, and the words you learn from reading come up in your
textbooks. That kind of synergy is awesome!


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