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 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6695 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes  Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 2945 of 3959 31 May 2012 at 12:50am | IP Logged | ||
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GER: Letzte Nacht habe ich nichts, absolut nichts getan ... es sei denn daß fast 5 Stunden mit der Hauptteil der instrumentalen Produktion von Richard Wagner als "schon etwas" bezeichnet werden kann: von der Ouverture der "Feen" bis das Vorspiel zur dritten acht von Parsifal, über Tote Seeleute, narkotisierte Liebende, goldgierige Götter und Zwerge direkt aus dem Herr der Ringe zu geistig gestört christliche Fanatiker. Wagner war ein fürchterlicher Mensch, aber er hätte ein erstklassiger Komponist werden können, wenn er nur der Versuchung Opern zu schreiben hätte widerstehen können. Nehmen wir zum Beispiel den Anfang von Dem Rheingold, wo er über 137 Takte in C eine gewaltige Spannung aufbaut ... und gerade als wir einem monumentalen Höhepunkt erwarten, beginnen drei Weiber in einer Badewanne zu heulen.
POR: Hoje eu li o início do "Super interessante" no autobús, com artigos sobre a massa negra e energia negra, a construção do Marina Bay Sands em Singapura e sobre a geologia de Vénus (ou melhor: a 'venusologia' - "geo-" é uma derivação de Gaia, a deusa grega da terra). DUT: Daarnaast las ik een groot deel van Routledge z'n Nederlandse grammatica, waarna ik heb gestudeerd en gekopieerd meerdere pagina's van het tijdschrift Kijk ', die ik waarschijnlijk heb gekocht in Frankfurt in februari van dit jaar. Mijn Nederlands heeft een grondige opfris nodig, maar helaas, ik heb geen tijd om naar Nederland of Vlandern te gaan vanwege andere planen. En dan moet ik werken met de middelen die ik thuis heb. Yesterday evening I didn't do anything ... unless listening to almost 5 hours of Wagner can be defined as 'something'. Those 5 hours covered most of his instrumental music, which however generally is fitted into one of his operas, which means 1) that some recordings are polluted by singers and choirs, 2) that some otherwise excellent pieces lack a proper start and end. On example is the famous introduction to the Rhinegold, where he succeeds in building a sheer incredible tension through 137 measures in C major, and right at the point where you expect something monumental to happen .. three hysterical ladies in a bathtub start screaming. Arghhhhhh!!!! In the bus home from my job today I read the first part of "Super Interesante", the magazin I bought in Portugal (the regular edition, not the special issue about Egypt). And this evening I finally took steps to polish my rusty Dutch: first I read a sizeable chunk of Routledge's grammar, and then I took the issue of "Kijk" which I (probably) bought in Frankfurt in February and studied a couple of pages throughly. Of course it would be about time to revisit the Netherlands or Flandern in order to get an immersion boost like those I have got in German, Italian and Portuguese here in 2012, but due to other plans this won't happen in the near future. Edited by Iversen on 31 May 2012 at 10:25am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4836 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 2946 of 3959 31 May 2012 at 1:40pm | IP Logged | ||
Das Rheingold-Vorspiel ist in Es... Und das "Heulen der Weiber" beruht auf Rousseauschen Vorstellungen eines gemeinsamen Ursprungs von Musik und Sprache, deshalb singen sie nur "Weia, wagala weia". Der ausgebliebene Höhepunkt wird übrigens noch nachgeholt, nämlich wenn die Rheintöchter "Rheingold! Rheingold!" singen, und warum Wagner Opern - oder besser Musikdramen - und keine Symphonien geschrieben hat, weißt du, oder? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6695 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 2947 of 3959 02 June 2012 at 5:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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GER: Ich bin ein bißchen müde nach einen langen Tag, so hier bloß eine kurze Meldung: Ich habe gestern keine deutsche, sondern ein russische Zeitschrift gekauft, und darüber hinaus habe ich gestern niederländisches statt deutschen Fernsehen gesehen bis ich fast orange in mein Kopf wurde - TV Gelderland und Omroep Zeeland. Aber sonst bein ich hier von Deutsch 100% umgeben - Immersion pur. Ich verlasse Hannover Morgen früh um 7.55.
Und ja, wie Josquin sagt sind die 137 Takte durchwegs in Es-dur Edited by Iversen on 16 June 2012 at 10:52am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6695 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 2948 of 3959 07 June 2012 at 5:26pm | IP Logged | ||
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Mein Besuch in Deutschland wird heute enden, - ich schreibe dies von einem teuren Bahnhofs PC in Stuttgart. Der Film über Interrail veranlässt durch dessen 40 Hahres Jubiläum wurde in Leipzig gezeigt, und wäahren die 26 Minuten oder so habe ich mehrmals mein Gesicht gesehen - so es war ganz sicher wert darin mitzuwirken und nach Leipig zu fahren.
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| Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6695 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 2949 of 3959 12 June 2012 at 8:23pm | IP Logged | ||
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J'ai lu pas mal de journeaux scientifics, mais "Science et Vie" a toujours été entre mes favoris. No. 1137 de Juin 2012 a sur la couverture une histoire concernant les neutrinos, dont on estime avoir trouvé un qui non seulement ne réagit selon les lois de la force électrique/magnétique et la force forte comme les autres neutrinos, mais qui n'est affecté par la force nucléaire faible non plus. Néanmoins il est considéré comme un candidat sérieux pour etre le particle derrièere la mystérieuse masse dite noire, qui serait beaucoup plus lourd que tout ce qu'il y a de masse ordinaire dans l'univers. Franchement l'univers se rétire dans l'obscurité totale devant nos yeux... Mais il y a une autre histoire (p. 106) qui est presque plus troublante que celle-là. Il existe une parasite unicellulaire qui cause les souris et rats à perdre leur prudence et se montrer ouvertement. Les chats les vois et les dévorent, et voilà le protozoaire Toxoplasma gondii se trouve justement dans l'animal dont il a besoin pour se réproduire. Mais les hommes peuvent aussi avoir cette parasite, et maintenant un biologiste tchèque a calculé que les personnes affectés (même en absence des symptômes classiques de toxoplasmose) "ont 2.6 plus de risque d'avoir un accident de voiture", et "ils sont généralement moins respectueux de règles, plus jaloux, ont davantage le goût de risque". Et cela à cause d'une simple protozoaire!
I have been reading a lot of science magazines, but one of my all time favorites is the French "Science et Vie". The latest issue has as its lead article a story about a new and even more undetectable neutrino, which seems to be necessary to understand why almost all neutrino counts give smaller numbers than expected. But there is an even more sinister story. It has for some time been known that the protozoa Toxoplasma gondii can cause rodent carriers to lose their normal prudence and run around out in the open where cats can see and catch them. And the protozoa apparently needs to be in a cat to reproduce. Now a Czech scientist has found that humans with this parasite have 2.6 times as large a risk to be involved in traffic accidents, and besides they are more careless, jealous and liable to transgress rules. Bye for now Edited by Iversen on 14 June 2012 at 3:17am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6695 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 2950 of 3959 14 June 2012 at 3:10am | IP Logged | ||
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RU: В то время я еще был в Германии, я закупил русскую версию журнала GEO, у которого есть много версии на разных языках. Начинается с напыщенной речи на тех людей, которые рискуют своей жизнью, чтобы спасти китов от "научной" японский китобоев, но после того есть много полезных и интересных статей на языковом уровне, который (более или менее) я может справиться.
GR: Για κάποιο περίεργο λόγο επίσης μεταφέρω τα μικρά κίτρινα λεξικά του Langenscheidt της νέας ελληνικής και ρουμανικής μαζί μου στην τσάντα μου, και έχω κάνει αρκετές σελίδες του λίστες λέξεων. I have been carrying the latest issue of GEO around with me since I found it in a German Hauptbahnhof kiosk - I think it is fairly new in the Russian version, but I have bought it earlier in other languages. The current issue starts out with a vehement attack on those people who try to block socalled 'scientific' Japanese whalers from killing the last remaining big whales, but apart from that I like the magazine - it has a suitablz level which I can deal with: just enough unknown words to keep me busy, but not so many that I can't get the meaning. I have also some of the small yellow dictionaries from Langenscheidt in my bag, and I have done several pages of Greek wordlists lately. Besides I have been thinking heavily on how to explain the concept of wordlists in Esperanto - it helps me to develop a modest amount of fluidity to have something concrete to think about, and this topic may actually be relevant for me later this year. Edited by Iversen on 14 June 2012 at 3:14am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Kronos Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5253 days ago 186 posts - 452 votes Speaks: German*, English | Message 2951 of 3959 14 June 2012 at 5:54am | IP Logged | ||
Btw I've noticed that Langenscheidt brought out an entirely new "Taschenwörterbuch" for (Modern) Greek last year, eventually replacing the old one originally compiled by Heinz F. Wendt in the late 1960s. This doesn't happen all that often. Generally new editions even of midsize dictionaries either simply add a certain number of new words to the previous one (leaving the bulk of entries untouched), or sometimes merely the formatting and font colour have been altered. If I will ever learn Greek I will consider getting copies of both - since the old edition reflects 1960s usage and the new one is based on 2000s usage, two generations apart. It would be interesting to pick out sample pages and compare side by side what has changed both with the language and with the presentation of it now after forty years, and if for the better. There is one sample page at amazon, but strangely not on the publisher's website (limited only to front matter etc.). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6695 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 2952 of 3959 15 June 2012 at 5:04pm | IP Logged | ||
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I have actually several Greek dictionaries with all the old accents and aspirations - I was preparing to learn Greek during the last month or so of my French studies; but then I got my exam and reconsidered the job situation ... and arrived at the conclusion that all further language studies were a waste of time. When I came back to Greek a few years ago I found out that I needed new dictionaries, but I kept the old ones - and my micro Langenscheidt is still the old version. This means that I cannot be totally sure that some Katharevousa-looking expressions and words still are in active use, and endings on -ις may have been superseeded by the parallel series in -η, but generally words and expressions don't seem to be dropped from Greek, they just become less used.
FR: Ma lecture de journeaux sci en français s'est continu avec "Les dossiers de la Recherche" (ou tout bonnement "La recherche"). Et le thème du numéro 49 'hors série' est 'La Mémoire'. Ici on trouve encore une de ces histoires qui me donnent des frissons, cette fois parce l'article encore une fois laisse entendre que des êtres étrangers à nous existent dedans nous. Cette fois des prions* mais bien sûr des prions bienfaisants et pas ceux qui causent la maladie de vache folle ou the kourou-koukou ou le Creutzfeld-Jacobs. Wikipédia: "Un prion est un type d’agent pathogène de nature protéique (constitué d’une protéine ayant adopté une conformation ou un repliement anormal)" D'abord il semble que nos souvenirs ne sont pas engravés d'une façon définitive dans nos cerveaux, comme on croyait. Les synapses font des dessins compliqées, certes, mais si quelque-chose ne maintient les sites de contact entre eux en bonne ordre ils revertent à leur configuration primitive. Et il parait que des substances très ressemblantes à des prions ont un rôle décisive dans ce jeu: "CPEB3, grâce a ses propriétés semblables à celles des prions, permettrait de synthetizer localement et de façon permanente de nouveaux récepteurs AMPA. Ces derniers seraient alors insérés puis maintenus sur la membrane synaptique, notamment grace à PKMζ, ce qui permettrait de maintenir de façon persistante les poids synaptiques modifiés lors de l'apprentissage." PKM zeta est alors un enzyme qui sert non pas à apprendre des choses, mais à retenir nos mémoires à long terme: "(...) chez le rat (...) l'inhibition de l'activité de PKMζ, même plusieurs jours après la consolidation, conduit à l'effacement définitif des souvenirs" "Des travaux plus récents (...) ont montré qu'une augmentation artificielle des niveaux de PKMζ, plusieurs jours après aue la mémoire a été consolidée, s'accompagne d'une amélioration des performances mnésiques chez le rat (...)" Eh bien, après ceci je entends qu'il y aura bientôt des pillules qui peuvent améliorer la mémoire permanente chez les rats - et des pillus pour nous les hommes vont suivre. Je prédis qu'il y aura un torrent de protestes des psychologues contre cette intervention dans la 'nature' et que les médécins vont tenter d'en garder un monopole pour la distribution, comme il était le cas pour les pillulles du bonheur ou pour le viagra. Je prédis aussi que cela ne leur réussira - la tentation d'une mémoire super est tout bonnement trop attirante. I have read one more sci mag in French now, and this time I have learned that our memories aren't stable even when they have been established in our longterm memory. Their existence is dependent on some housekeeping done in the contact zones between the synapses, and it seems that a prion-like substance is heavily involved in this, and so is an enzyme called PKMζ (PKM zeta). If you block this enzyme in rats their memoires dissolve as the receptors go back to some inital state. On the other hand, if you give them more of the good stuff then their recall becomes better and - probably - more vivid. So at least for rats we may expect a 'memory pill', and soon after probably also one for humans. I foresee a banshee battle cry from people who can't accept this new pill, akin to the protest storms that arose when Prozac and Viagra were introduced. But if it works it can't be stopped - the prospects of a better memory are simply too enticing for a lot of us. Edited by Iversen on 15 June 2012 at 5:23pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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