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| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4837 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes  Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 81 of 116 23 April 2013 at 9:36am | IP Logged | ||
Du hast recht. Kafka gilt deshalb als schwierig, weil die Aussage seiner Bücher schwer zu interpretieren ist. Die Sprache ist dagegen relativ einfach. Wenn du etwas sprachlich Anspruchvolleres suchst, wäre Thomas Mann vielleicht eine gute Herausforderung für dich? Edited by Josquin on 23 April 2013 at 7:13pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| WingSuet Triglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 5344 days ago 169 posts - 211 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, German Studies: Cantonese | Message 82 of 116 23 April 2013 at 5:53pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks a lot for the corrections Josquin! "Mehr aktiv" is a common mistake for Swedish
speakers, especially with longer words, where we have to use the helping word "mer" to form comparative. I need to watch out for that! ;) Wir werden tatsächlich Der Tod in Venedig von Thomas Mann nächster Semester lesen! Ich habe gehört, dass seine Sprache schwer, aber auch sehr schön, ist, so vielleicht wäre das eine gute Herausforderung! Wahrscheinlich ist es auch einfacher als Die Leiden des jungen Werthers von Goethe. :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| BAnna Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4615 days ago 409 posts - 616 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish Studies: Russian, Turkish | Message 83 of 116 23 April 2013 at 9:40pm | IP Logged | ||
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Congratulations on your exam results. Your study program sounds fantastic and challenging. Ich bin total neidisch auf dich :)
Don't worry if you aren't on here that much, the important thing is that you are working on your languages. This forum is great, but it's almost too good, in that you can spend a lot of time here and not study. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| WingSuet Triglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 5344 days ago 169 posts - 211 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, German Studies: Cantonese | Message 84 of 116 24 April 2013 at 11:42am | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks BAnna! Yeah, it's amazing! There's a lot of work to it, but it really pays off!
There's no way I would have been able to learn this much on my own in less than a year! And the teachers are great, many of them are native Germans or Austrians. You're right about the forum. Sometimes I feel guilty when I've been here too much instead of studying. But I have different periods. Sometimes I love being in here, sometimes I need a break and do something else instead. Now I'm starting to get in a forum-period again :) Edited by WingSuet on 30 April 2013 at 11:34am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| WingSuet Triglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 5344 days ago 169 posts - 211 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, German Studies: Cantonese | Message 85 of 116 30 April 2013 at 12:00pm | IP Logged | ||
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Weekly update, week 17
Study time German: 10,07 h Cantonese: 1,43 h German Homework this week included one translation exercise, one grammar exercise and one paper with questions about phonetics, but since those were in Swedish, I don't count them to my study time. The translation exercise consisted of two texts, one in German to be translated into Swedish and one in Swedish to be translated into German. We have this exercise every week and then we go through our results in class. It's harder than I thought to translate into my mother language, but the German texts are often complicated and it's easy to get stuck in the German thinking, especially since the languages are so similar. The grammar exercise was just a lot of sentences to be translated that consisted a grammar element we've been going through, such as the conjunctive mode or passive structures. We also wrote an essay of 350 words where we were to discuss a problem in one of the books we've read. I chose Effi Briest and the issue of unfaithfulness and marriage. Our essays will be corrected by German students who are studying to be teachers, so it's a good exercise for them too, and it's also interesting to see what they have to say about our essays. This week we were going to focus on writing so that it's not only correct German, but sounds German as well. That means among other things not always starting with the subject, like we do a lot in Swedish, but for example with an abverbial instead. Cantonese I've just been trying to catch up with all the cards piling up in Mnemosyne but it took almost one and a half our during the week. I noticed that I have exactly 2500 cards in that pile, so about 1250 words and expressions! Later, when classes are over, I'll try and pick up my Cantonese studies again. I had to put them on hold to focus on my German studies. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| BAnna Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4615 days ago 409 posts - 616 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish Studies: Russian, Turkish | Message 86 of 116 14 May 2013 at 1:44am | IP Logged | ||
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It was interesting reading your post about translation. I think it goes in and out of fashion. Tranlsation used to be king, but then language teachers abandoned it. Now I think it is coming back. Luca uses it quite extensively, for example. And my German teacher (through the Goethe Institute) has us do translation fairly regularly. Why are you not counting it towards your study time? Because it is in Swedish? Hmm, I see that, but I also see that you could count it because you have to connect the Swedish part of your brain with the German part (and of course the Cantonese part) so the thinking becomes automatic. Maybe. I'm not a brain researcher, so these are just random thoughts...It is interesting how you have to train yourself to adopt the structures of the non-native language. One of my earlier teachers was convinced writing was the key to developing a high level of another language because it forces you to rewire your brain in a way that speaking or listening does not. Of course I am lazy, so I didn't necessarily listen to him. A lot of the polyglots here (like Iversen) do say they like to physically write things down to learn them.
I enjoy reading your updates. Keep up the good work! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| WingSuet Triglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 5344 days ago 169 posts - 211 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, German Studies: Cantonese | Message 87 of 116 11 June 2013 at 5:19pm | IP Logged | ||
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It's definitely time for an update! My university course is over now and got good results
on all the tests so far. But since the corse ended I've been having trouble keeping on track lately with my studying. I'm still doing flashcards nearly every day and I try to learn some new words on Memrise every day too, but I'm not doing much more. I don't feel like reading in German anymore, maybe because I don't have any good books left or because I have several books in my native language that I'm really looking forward to reading. Besides reading I'm not sure what I should do to keep learning German. I tried doing some old grammar exercises from last semester, but I think they were too easy, because I got bored quickly. I'm considering writing exercises, maybe some kind of challenge, as I really liked the many writing exercises we had at University. Does anyone have any tip for what to do to make studying more fun again? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| BAnna Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4615 days ago 409 posts - 616 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish Studies: Russian, Turkish | Message 88 of 116 14 June 2013 at 7:06am | IP Logged | ||
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Hmmm, maybe it's not actually •studying•, but fun things like watching movies or listening to podcasts or even songs might be a nice way to take a break yet still keep learning. Some new vocabulary words or idiomatic expressions are sure to pop up or maybe some odd grammatical structure will suddenly make sense, and your listening comprehension will surely improve. Of course, you are at a very high level so maybe there's not as much benefit?
Do you have any conversation groups (like Meetups) in your area that you could participate in? Participating in a conversation among a group of people is supposed to be one of the most challenging tasks for a learner of another language, but it can also be lots of fun to meet new people while enjoying a coffee or some wine. I look forward to reading any ideas others may post here. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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