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| JayR9 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4693 days ago 155 posts - 162 votes  Speaks: English* | Message 41 of 107 25 February 2012 at 9:52pm | IP Logged |
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Cheers, I will have a look because the one's on ebay with the cd's are more expensive.
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| BobbyE Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5240 days ago 226 posts - 331 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin | Message 42 of 107 27 February 2012 at 8:33am | IP Logged |
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I just had a skype conversation that showed a really nice improvement for me.
I think my first youtube video will show what i've done after 56 AP and 105 PP, and then my second video will show when I'm completely done with both volumes of Assimil, or all 105 AP. I'll subtitle them, and I hope this will inspire others to continue with whichever course they are using. It could, however, just be a major disappointment haha. I definitely want to post videos reviewing my self study vs. classroom study; comparing the IC text books vs. Self Study courses. At which point I'll be moving onto Linguaphone's old 70's course. Preferably after that I will be able to find a reasonably challenging intermediate reader or two, but if not I will just use the NPCR series or Moses McCormick's FLR. The reason I want something shorter is because I think I'll want to try out more than one thing to keep my interest. Along the way I'll be posting videos and reviews, maybe some skype videos with my language exchange friends or some level up videos a la Moses McCormick. In about 10 days, I'll be completely done with Volume 1, it feels good. I can't believe I've fallen in love with language learning. Talking with native speakers after working so hard has got to be the healthiest high, ever. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| JayR9 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4693 days ago 155 posts - 162 votes Speaks: English* | Message 43 of 107 27 February 2012 at 8:43am | IP Logged |
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Can't wait to see your videos and see the results. Will be interesting to see the difference and progress.
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| BobbyE Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5240 days ago 226 posts - 331 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin | Message 44 of 107 27 February 2012 at 11:16pm | IP Logged |
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Thanks Jay. Just curious, how are you going about your Mandarin study?
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| liddytime Pentaglot Senior Member United States mainlymagyar.wordpre Joined 6222 days ago 693 posts - 1328 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Galician Studies: Hungarian, Vietnamese, Modern Hebrew, Norwegian, Persian, Arabic (Written) | Message 45 of 107 28 February 2012 at 5:19am | IP Logged |
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Wow! Nice Work. Can't wait for the video!
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| eggcluck Senior Member China Joined 4694 days ago 168 posts - 278 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Mandarin, Japanese | Message 46 of 107 29 February 2012 at 3:33am | IP Logged |
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Also pateintly waiting to see your video! I have yet to start Assimil active but I want to see if assimils claims are accurate about the active phase!
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| BobbyE Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5240 days ago 226 posts - 331 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin | Message 47 of 107 29 February 2012 at 5:43am | IP Logged |
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Eggcluck, my feeling about their claims about the active phase is that they are
accurate within the extent of the content covered. For example, I do "accidentally" use correct grammar that I haven't deliberately studied or tried to remember. But, this is limited since the actual content of the book is so limited. Below is an excerpt of the last lesson in Assimil's Chinese with Ease, as well as an excerpt of the last lesson in Linguaphone's 1975 Chinese course. You can see the difference in the complexity of grammar, the length of the sentences, as well as the range and depth of the vocabulary. "Tomorrow is the last lesson! We have almost finished the lessons! Eh? Not at all! First: the study of Chinese is never-ending! Secondly: There are still more than fifty lessons to revise! That's right! But revision is revision; it's not quite the same as studying a new lesson!" - Assimil Lesson 104 "The exhibition building is filled with a peaceful and friendly atmosphere. The exhibition building is spacious, the displays are abundant, so it is impossible to finish seeing it in a short time. In the exhibition halls were displayed oil products, and heavy industry products, textile goods, art handicraft products, etc., so the state of China's Socialist construction could be taken in at a glance." - Linguaphone Lesson 30 I'm not sure if the English makes it incredibly clear, but looking at the constructions in Mandarin reveals that Linguaphone goes to a much much higher level with more complex and sophisticated sentences and compound phrases. There is a lot more recursion in Linguaphones lessons, which to my mind makes it a great looking course to use after Assimil. I can't wait to start it. But yeah, I feel some reservations about making a video so soon after starting my study of the language, but I think it will be good for people to see who are curious about the books, despite all the mistakes I'll make and how slowly I'll be speaking. I'm not going to write it out before hand, but I will certainly gather my thoughts and the points that I want to make. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| BobbyE Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5240 days ago 226 posts - 331 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin | Message 48 of 107 29 February 2012 at 5:45am | IP Logged |
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liddytime, thanks for the encouragement!
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