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TAC 2015 - Rare Languages Team Thread | ||
Tags: Telugu | Hawaiian | Albanian | Team Thread | Malay | Sanskrit | Georgian | Tagalog | Indonesian | Thai | Rare Languages | Farsi/Persian | Hindi | Hebrew | Dutch | Arabic | Total Annihilation Challenge (TAC) | ||
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| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5159 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes  Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 57 of 113 15 January 2015 at 8:34pm | IP Logged | ||
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I had always been interested in the countries and people halfway through Europe and Asia. The choice was for Georgian first because of its unique alphabet, grammar (a small, autochtonous language family) and the culture behind it: architecture, hospitality, cooking. I don't regret my choice and any other languages in the region still seem of a lower priority.
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| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4861 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 58 of 113 15 January 2015 at 8:43pm | IP Logged | ||
Reason I stopped learning Hebrew a long time ago: no one else was doing it :D It was an interesting language, but unfortunately I had very little use for it except on one trip to Israel where it helped me find Jaffa :D It's surprising to see more and more people on the forum study Hebrew. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| geoffw Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4681 days ago 1134 posts - 1865 votes Speaks: English*, German, Yiddish Studies: Modern Hebrew, French, Dutch, Italian, Russian | Message 59 of 113 16 January 2015 at 3:36am | IP Logged | ||
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There's no contest that Hebrew is an obvious language for me to learn. Hebrew is the language my kids learn at
school, so I want/need to keep up as they improve (doing well so far!). I already use ancient varieties of the language regularly for religious ritual and study. In my community, the two languages I hear most commonly in public (after English) are Hebrew and Russian, in no particular order. I can't avoid Hebrew, so the only question is how much effort will I put in to understanding what's around me. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Zireael Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 4644 days ago 518 posts - 636 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, Spanish Studies: German, Sign Language, Tok Pisin, Arabic (Yemeni), Old English | Message 60 of 113 16 January 2015 at 9:19pm | IP Logged | ||
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The first post of my log (Jan 2013) says why I wanted to learn Arabic, and it remains true.
Basically, I was drawn in by the beauty of the alphabet (I've just read [today] a Polish translation of a Spanish novel set in Al-Andalus and it has Arabic calligraphed chapter headings awwww). To top it, I'm pretty interested in linguistics, so the trilateral roots and recurring vowels in forms I-IX made me very interested. I doubt I'll be ever able to master weak or defective verbs, though. The insane dialectal variation (some 20 dialects recognized in Yemen alone) is a cherry on the cake - my tag reads Arabic (Yemeni) but should probably be Arabic (MSA) but I haven't gotten around to changing it lol. Two days ago, I was reading about sign languages (I need a paragraph on them for my MA) and one theory postulated a location-movement-location schemata similar to the consonant-vowel(s)-consonant-vowel(s)-consonant(-vowel(s)) schemata seen in the Semitic languages. The schemata thing will probably not make it into my MA, sadly :( 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6463 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 61 of 113 16 January 2015 at 10:08pm | IP Logged | ||
Haha. What Richard meant (I think) is that you should select one language of each language family and build it up to C1 or better, this will be your anchor which allows you to then tackle the next one in that language family. The anchor languages also help you keep all the other languages active: e. g. while reading Spanish you're partly also reviewing Italian, because so many words are similar. So on the whole you need less review time if you work this way. Without an anchor language, it may be that you're "trading in" one language for another, as you will lose your languages when they are not anchored, especially when learning a similar one. It's okay to do a trade-off, Richard did that a couple times, but it should be a conscious one. Some language families need more than one anchor, for example French cannot anchor Italian or Spanish, they are too distinct. I am about to post a first update on my Hebrew studies in my log. Edited by Sprachprofi on 16 January 2015 at 10:09pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Stelle Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada tobefluent.com Joined 4137 days ago 949 posts - 1686 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Spanish Studies: Tagalog | Message 62 of 113 17 January 2015 at 12:31am | IP Logged | ||
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I'm learning Tagalog because my husband and his family are all Tagalog-speakers. I'm going to be honest...if I didn't
have a personal investment in the language and culture, then Tagalog would probably never have made it on my radar. But it's a really interesting language, for so many reasons... - Spanish and English loan words abound. In some cases, like numbers, all three languages are used: numbers from 1-10 in Tagalog, higher numbers in English, time in Spanish. - Despite the loan words, Tagalog syntax (and vocabulary) is a huge challenge for me. Up until now, my languages (English, French, Spanish) have generally followed a basic SVO word order. The VSO word order in Tagalog feels like a puzzle sometimes! And multi-syllabic Tagalog words can be hard to remember. - I love markers and particles! Want to turn a statement into a question? Just add a "ba" question marker. Talking to someone older than you or in a position of authority? Add a "po" respect marker. - There's very little differentiation between males and females in language. Siya means both he and she. Niya means both his and her. Asawa is spouse - no difference between wife and husband. (edited to add: there exist words for man and woman: lalaki and babae. But occupation words are gender neutral) - THE SPELLING! Oh, the spelling is a beautiful thing. Tagalog and loan words are spelled *exactly* how they sound. So for example, the word for Wednesday is Miyerkules (from the Spanish miércoles), you type on your "kompyuter" and you don't have to try to figure out how to sound out a crazy-long word like "pinakanakakatawa" (although you can't tell from the spelling which syllable will be stressed). I read "hawswayp" in a text and it wasn't until I read it out loud that I realized it was "housewife" (the "f" sound doesn't exist in Tagalog). - It's really a rapidly changing language. Anyone interested in the dynamics of a changing language would do well to take a look at Tagalog. - Code-switching. Love it or hate it, you can't really avoid code-switching if you're talking to Filipinos. edited to clarify Edited by Stelle on 17 January 2015 at 2:40pm 5 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4040 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 63 of 113 20 January 2015 at 11:18pm | IP Logged | ||
me me me me!!! Persian <3 Ok, Dutch. I don't like it. But I like even less that I live in the Netherlands and I still need to use English with the locals. Why Dutch is worthy studying? Well, because the Netherlands are a very nice place where to live, just to start. Because the Dutch can be very nice people but will not invest on you if you don't speak their language. It gives you an headstart of German and it has a unique sound: you cannot mistake Dutch with any other language in the world (well, if you exclude Afrikaans, that it's basically simplified Dutch). Because the grammar is quite weird but there is a sort of elegance behind it. I actually like it when it's written. And the Dutch women are among the most beautiful in the world. Also, speaking Dutch will make pronouncing Klingon easier. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Stelle Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada tobefluent.com Joined 4137 days ago 949 posts - 1686 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Spanish Studies: Tagalog | Message 64 of 113 22 January 2015 at 2:08am | IP Logged | ||
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I know that GLOSS is already linked in the resources post:
GLOSS ...but I just wanted to say that I completed my very first lesson, and I thought it was great! I checked out their list of languages, and it looks like they have lessons available for Persian-Farsi, Hebrew, Arabic, Indonesian, Albanian, Hindi, and Thai.. It might be worth taking a look if you haven't already! 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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