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| Anya Pentaglot Senior Member France Joined 5786 days ago 636 posts - 708 votes  Speaks: Russian*, FrenchC1, English, Italian, Spanish Studies: German, Japanese, Hungarian, Sanskrit, Portuguese, Turkish, Mandarin Studies: Ancient Greek, Hindi | Message 41 of 117 27 January 2015 at 7:51pm | IP Logged |
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For Spanish and Portuguese learners, I could recommend these two useful sites, there are plenty of free book to
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| kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4882 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 42 of 117 28 January 2015 at 1:50am | IP Logged |
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I'm going big this winter, and tackling In the Name of the Rose. If anyone wants to join me, here's a pdf of a trilateral text (Italian, English, Spanish) that I also posted in the Super Challenge forum:
Il nome della rosa For those who don't know the story, it's a murder mystery set in an Italian monastery in 1327. It also involves, says Wikipedia, semiotics, biblical analysis, medieval studies, and literary theory. I don't like reading the pdf, but it's a nice crutch to have if you get stuck on a passage. I'm only ten pages in, and I have been stuck a few times already It's a challenging read, for sure, but not as hard as I feared. I'm also hoping that it will get easier once the action starts - I've only finished the prologue. But even in these ten pages I love the way Eco uses language. I've already highlighted half a dozen passages. It's work to untangle them at first, but the work is rewarded with some beautiful Italian. Here, the narrator explains why he won't give many physical descriptions of the monks and abbots he meets: Nulla è più fugace della forma esteriore, che appassisce e muta come i fiori di campo all'apparire dell'autunno, e che senso avrebbe oggi dire dell'abate Abbone che ebbe l'occhio severo e le guance pallide, quando ormai lui e coloro che lo attorniavano sono polvere e della polvere il loro corpo ha ormai il grigiore mortifero (solo l'animo, lo voglia Iddio, risplendendo di una luce che non si spegnerà mai più)? Nothing is more fleeting than external form, which withers and alters like the flowers of the field at the appearance of autumn, and what would be the point of saying today that the abbot Abo had a stern eye and pale cheeks, when by now he and those around him are dust and their bodies have the mortal grayness of dust (only their souls, God grant, shining with light that will never be extinguished)? And here is a beautiful rant about the state of the world these days (circa 1327): Gli uomini di una volta erano belli e grandi (ora sono dei bambini e dei nani), ma questo fatto è solo uno dei tanti che testimoni la sventura di un mondo che incanutisce. La gioventù non vuole apprendere più nulla, la scienze è in decadenza, il mondo intero cammina sulla testa, dei ciechi conducono altri chieci e li fan precipitare negli abissi, gli uscelli si lanciano prima di aver preso il volo, l'asino suona la lira, i buoi danzano, Maria non ama più la vita contemplative e Marta non ama più la vita attiva, Lea è sterile, Rachele ha l'occhio carnale, Catone frequenta i lupanari, Lucrezio diventa femmina. Tutto è sviato dal proprio cammino. In the past men were handsome and great (now they are children and dwarfs), but this is merely one of the many facts that demonstrate the disaster of an aging world. The young no longer want to study anything, learning is in decline, the whole world walks on its head, blind men lead others equally blind and cause them to plunge into the abyss, birds leave the nest before they can fly, the jackass plays the lyre, oxen dance. Mary no longer loves the contemplative life and Martha no longer loves the active life, Leah is sterile, Rachel has a carnal eye, Cato visits brothels, Lucretius becomes a woman. Everything is on the wrong path. (translations from the pdf, shockingly uncredited) Edited by kanewai on 28 January 2015 at 1:53am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Crush Tetraglot Senior Member ChinaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5858 days ago 1622 posts - 2299 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Mandarin, Esperanto Studies: Basque | Message 43 of 117 28 January 2015 at 8:51am | IP Logged |
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I thought the book Q was really interesting. It was originally written anonymously in Italian, now there are translations in several languages, which can be downloaded for free from the publisher's website. An audiobook of the Italian version can also be downloaded for free (Creative Commons license) from LiberLiber. I listened to it last year and thought it was great. You've also got all the materials necessary, for free, to make a nice parallel text from it.
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| garyb Triglot Senior Member ScotlandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5200 days ago 1468 posts - 2413 votes Speaks: English*, Italian, French Studies: Spanish | Message 44 of 117 28 January 2015 at 10:16am | IP Logged |
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Intersting post kanewai, Il nome della rosa has been on my list for a wee while so it's nice to get a better idea of what it's all about. For the moment I'm sticking to easier and more modern books, but I'll get onto Eco sooner or later. A parallel text would definitely be a benefit for challenging works like that.
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| TimmyTurner93 Groupie United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3660 days ago 45 posts - 58 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese, Japanese | Message 45 of 117 28 January 2015 at 4:13pm | IP Logged |
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I have returned from my adventures in the north and only just remembered I didn't give
an introduction. So.... Hey, I'm Timmy My romance language is Portuguese. I've studied on and off for about 6/7 months prior to joining HTLAL and never really made progress as I would work for a while and then stop and lose it all. Can't really define a proper long term goal as I'm always editing but I'll probably frequently ask for opinions on whether anything new is realistic or not. My Log is located here Please excuse any grammatical errors that might be in the text. MY sleep schedule is in transition so my mind can barely focus to go back and check. Edited by TimmyTurner93 on 28 January 2015 at 4:15pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| dandt Senior Member Australia regarderetlire.wordp Joined 4617 days ago 134 posts - 174 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, French | Message 46 of 117 29 January 2015 at 2:28am | IP Logged |
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Hi guys! I'm Anna and have been lurking for a few years while being slack on my french.
I'm studying Italian at the moment. Italian is my fathers first language and I never had an interest, even though it has meant not really being able to communicate with family, and instead was drawn to french. I've recently been told of a job opportunity I may have in 18 months to work in Italy. While I only need English, having Italian will be an added benefit in getting the job, paired with my Italian citizenship. I'm redoubling my efforts in an attempt to get as good at Italian as possible by then. I've never formally studied, but I'm not really starting from nothing. I have been around the language my whole life, so I can understand a lot. I just need to focus on turning that into communication skills. TID=39997&PN=1&TPN=1">log Edited by dandt on 29 January 2015 at 2:33am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6590 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 47 of 117 29 January 2015 at 4:14am | IP Logged |
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Welcome!!!
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| nikolic993 Diglot Senior Member Yugoslavia Joined 3773 days ago 106 posts - 205 votes Speaks: Serbian*, English Studies: Italian, Mandarin, Romanian, Persian | Message 48 of 117 29 January 2015 at 8:18pm | IP Logged |
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The Cosby Show dubbed in Italian on YouTube.
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