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Dutch: ergens/nergens + preposition
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1e4e6 Octoglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4235 days ago 1013 posts - 1588 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, Dutch, Swedish, Italian Studies: German, Danish, Russian, Catalan	Message 1 of 2 22 May 2014 at 11:47pm \| IP Logged
	I remember in my grammar book the construction of pronomialising "preposition + iets" and "preposition + niets" into "ergens + preposition" and "nergens + preposition", respectively, i.e. "Reis je toch met niets?" into, "Reis je nergens toch mee?" and correspondingly, "over (n)iets" -> "(n)ergens over", "door (n)iets" -> "(n)ergens door", "voor (n)iets" -> "(n)ergens voor", etc. However, not frequently do I see the "(n)ergens + preposition", is there a certain nuance in this construction, or is there a different reason why this is not used so often? 1 person has voted this message useful
tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4652 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish	Message 2 of 2 23 May 2014 at 12:47am \| IP Logged
	The construction would be "Reis je nergens mee?" Toch sounds very out of context in your sentence. I use that construction all the time, and I would consider the phrasing with "met niets" to be at least completely non-idiomatic, if not outright wrong. But your example would be more accurately translated as "Reis je zonder bagage?" or something to that effect. Dat gaat nergens over! "that's total nonsense/waste of time" (about a discussion), I use this expression all the time... 1 person has voted this message useful

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