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| drygramul Tetraglot Senior Member Italy Joined 4413 days ago 165 posts - 269 votes  Speaks: Persian, Italian*, EnglishC2, GermanB2 Studies: French, Polish | Message 1 of 8 11 July 2014 at 2:48pm | IP Logged | ||
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I understand the meaning of "da" when it's used as "denn" or "dort".
But what's the meaning in each of the following examples? -- Solved -- Auf der Webseite des Londoner Imperial War Museums erzählen Briten, welchen Bezug der Erste Weltkrieg zu ihrer eigenen Familiengeschichte hat: Da ist zum Beispiel der Großvater, der [...] Christoph Butterwegge, Armutsforscher der Universität Köln, weist darauf hin, dass vor allem große Bahnhöfe zu Einkaufszentren umgestaltet werden: „Da übergibt man die Verantwortung an ein privates Unternehmen. Edited by drygramul on 11 July 2014 at 4:37pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| stifa Triglot Senior Member Norway lang-8.com/448715 Joined 4818 days ago 629 posts - 813 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, EnglishC2, German Studies: Japanese, Spanish | Message 2 of 8 11 July 2014 at 3:18pm | IP Logged | ||
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Have you checked Duden and Wiktionary.de? They have some rather thorough definitions of
the word "da". 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| akkadboy Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5353 days ago 264 posts - 497 votes Speaks: French*, English, Yiddish Studies: Latin, Ancient Egyptian, Welsh | Message 3 of 8 11 July 2014 at 4:05pm | IP Logged | ||
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My German is rusty but I would say (after checking the complete sentences) :
1) "da" is part of the family name "da Silva". 2) the locative meaning. "Here it is the grand-father (...) there it is the mother (...)". So maybe something like "in one case (...) in an other case", "in one family (...) in an other family (...)". 3) the locative meaning, "here, one abandons the responsability" 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| drygramul Tetraglot Senior Member Italy Joined 4413 days ago 165 posts - 269 votes Speaks: Persian, Italian*, EnglishC2, GermanB2 Studies: French, Polish | Message 4 of 8 11 July 2014 at 4:09pm | IP Logged | ||
Let's follow your suggestion: From Duden: 1.a an dieser Stelle, dort 1.b hier 2 zu diesem Zeitpunkt, in diesem Augenblick 3.a unter diesen Umständen, unter dieser Bedingung 3.b in dieser Hinsicht 3.c gesprächseröffnend, eine Schilderung einleitend 4 dabei, dafür, dagegen, daher, damit, danach, dazu So in the following sentence „Da übergibt man die Verantwortung an ein privates Unternehmen." the translation could be any of those: - Here responsibility is passed to a private company. (1) - Now responsibility is passed to a private company (2) - This way responsibility is passed to a private company. (4) - To that end responsibility is passed to a private company. (4) That was my problem from start. Edited by drygramul on 11 July 2014 at 4:21pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| drygramul Tetraglot Senior Member Italy Joined 4413 days ago 165 posts - 269 votes Speaks: Persian, Italian*, EnglishC2, GermanB2 Studies: French, Polish | Message 5 of 8 11 July 2014 at 4:16pm | IP Logged | ||
1) There's a part missing, Silva is the name of the subject of the previous sentence (sie vermitet). My guess, judging by the grammar (verb on end) was either a) as Silva thinks b) because Silva thinks 2) It could be, but also "an example for that" (dafür) 3) I chose that interpretation too, but I'm still not sure. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| akkadboy Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5353 days ago 264 posts - 497 votes Speaks: French*, English, Yiddish Studies: Latin, Ancient Egyptian, Welsh | Message 6 of 8 11 July 2014 at 4:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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1) Yes, but the first sentence is "Edinalva da Silva lebt seit 50 Jahren in Morro Azul".
2) well, the meaning is pretty much the same anyway :-) 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| drygramul Tetraglot Senior Member Italy Joined 4413 days ago 165 posts - 269 votes Speaks: Persian, Italian*, EnglishC2, GermanB2 Studies: French, Polish | Message 7 of 8 11 July 2014 at 4:36pm | IP Logged | ||
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1) You're right, I assumed Silva was the first name.
2) It is. None of those usages make me miss something. The problem arises when I want to use "da" actively. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4789 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 8 of 8 11 July 2014 at 8:31pm | IP Logged | ||
This is absolutely correct. Both da's have a locative meaning. In sentence 2) you can translate it literally into English: "There's the grandfather..." In sentence 3) it means "here" or "in this case". 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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