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| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 5851 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes  Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 9 of 30 17 September 2010 at 10:32pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Archive.org is an internet library and saves webpages for future reference rather than letting them disappear. It's quite normal for websites to clear out the old pages every once in a while, just like we bin old books and notebooks when we don't have any use for them any more. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Chris Heptaglot Senior Member Japan Joined 6961 days ago 287 posts - 452 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, Indonesian, French, Malay, Japanese, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Korean, Mongolian | Message 10 of 30 18 September 2010 at 1:53am | IP Logged | ||||||||
I see what you mean, and thanks for the explanation. However, the timing of the review's initial disappearance from the Berkeley site was particularly interesting, i.e. a day or two after I posted a link to it on here! I tried to search for it using what I could remember from the page, and it was nowhere to be found online. I am glad that it is back now, though. I don't trust RS, full stop! They are a big business, and I am sure they resent the competition from other programs such as Fluentz and Rocket, and in fact, I believe they have sued Rocket Languages for something relating to advertising. I'm surprised they haven't tried to lean on the site owner here to remove threads that show RS in its true light. We're all linguists and most of us hate the program! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 5851 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 11 of 30 18 September 2010 at 11:34am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Coincidence. A) This is a less visited site than (for example) Wikipedia, where there's been a link for ages. Or indeed the page itself, which is on a site far more important than this one (no offense, FX). B) If your post had been the trigger, it would have taken longer to be spotted, complaint written, complaint received, complaint considered, complaint passed to IT, page... than a day or two. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| mts-ca Diglot Newbie United States Joined 5725 days ago 12 posts - 13 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish | Message 12 of 30 19 September 2010 at 12:06am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Rosetta Stone v3 was most of what I used for Spanish in the beginning. I also used to
early version when I was in college and learning German. I would describe it more as an advanced SRS. It's advertised as a complete course for learning a language, and it certainly isn't. As a piece of supplemental material it can be useful. Rosetta Stone really tries to sell it's Dynamic Immersion method as being extremely effective. In reality, it's quite the opposite. Once you finish Rosetta Stone you'll vaguely understand what people are saying, you wont be able to say anything, and you'll be able to read a bit. If you're too exhausted to use a course book, or to focus on MP3s, then RS can be a way to train yourself on your new language. Version 4 looks like version 3 with 3 more levels, some audio CDs, an iPhone app, and maybe some games. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 5851 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 13 of 30 19 September 2010 at 11:46am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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They've also built a social networking site that really has nothing to do with the taught course and using that in the marketing blurb for the courses. "talk to real native speakers" or something like that.
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| s_allard Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5270 days ago 2704 posts - 5425 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Polish | Message 14 of 30 20 September 2010 at 6:21am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I really don't get it. RS comes it for a lot of flak here. I, myself, have never used it. But I know that many schools, both private and public, here in Québec swear by it. Somebody must like the produts.
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| Chris Heptaglot Senior Member Japan Joined 6961 days ago 287 posts - 452 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, Indonesian, French, Malay, Japanese, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Korean, Mongolian | Message 15 of 30 20 September 2010 at 9:06am | IP Logged | ||||||||
It depends on whom you want to believe: (1) A company that spends a fortune on clever advertising to sell it's expensive product, or (2) Seasoned linguists who have tried many methods to learn several languages and who have nothing to gain from their comments except the truth. I was taken in too. Years ago I couldn't wait to get my hands on one of these amazing, miraculous, effortless language courses and see what I had been missing. Then I got hold of one, and boy, was I disappointed! I couldn't believe that all the hype was about clicking on pictures. I could learn so much more from a real textbook, in the time it took me to learn 10 words from the tedious point, click and guess method. 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| zekecoma Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5184 days ago 561 posts - 655 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish | Message 16 of 30 22 September 2010 at 6:18am | IP Logged | ||||||||
I was the same way, but I got it by other means. I don't have it anymore. I tried it out and was just put off because it didn't explain nothing to you. It tries to teach you like a baby. I'm not a baby and never will. I have to know what I want to say. It's like asking people how to say this or that in <language>. Expecting what they tell you is correct, when it could be clearly wrong. I don't know why people (reviews all I read) claim it is actually helpful. One aspect it does correct, is to make you think in the language rather than seeing a different of the word and matching it. But, in the end that's all the use it does have. I learned how to say more in German from a textbook than I did in RS. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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