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| Chris Heptaglot Senior Member Japan Joined 6970 days ago 287 posts - 452 votes  Speaks: English*, Russian, Indonesian, French, Malay, Japanese, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Korean, Mongolian | Message 25 of 30 26 September 2010 at 5:10am | IP Logged | |||||
Quite so! Your native language is going to get in the way no matter what you do, so you might as well use it instead of trying to ignore it. Furthermore, adults need explanations! From the other side, the obsession with teaching all in the target language is an impediment to learning in my experience, unless the students are at a suitably advanced level of expertise. What really happens is that one student finally catches on to what you're trying to get across, and then explains it to the other students in their native language. The idea that some amazing, innate understanding of the target language has gone on is absolute nonsense! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Chris Heptaglot Senior Member Japan Joined 6970 days ago 287 posts - 452 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, Indonesian, French, Malay, Japanese, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Korean, Mongolian | Message 26 of 30 26 September 2010 at 5:16am | IP Logged | |||||
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Someone should set up a site that informs people that RS is good only for the bare basics. QUOTE] You would have to be careful how you worded it, and also, you couldn't use 'Rosetta Stone' in the URL or they'd be on to you straight away. In my opnion RS isn't good for the basics either. To me the basics of a language include an understanding of its grammatical structure, which RS doesn't provide. Learn it explicitly...understand it...apply it = accuray. Not apply it and then try and guess how to put it together in other situations. The more I think about it, the more awful I think the program is! 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Juаn Senior Member Colombia Joined 5194 days ago 727 posts - 1830 votes Speaks: Spanish* | Message 27 of 30 26 September 2010 at 5:51pm | IP Logged | |||||
Not everyone learns the same way. Rosetta Stone V2 enabled me to jump straight into monolingual German textbooks with no difficulty, so it did its job of providing me with the basic structures of the language. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 5860 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 28 of 30 26 September 2010 at 8:08pm | IP Logged | |||||
You might want to fill in your language profile, then. It's quite hard to evaluate what you're saying without knowing what other languages you speak. I suspect this wasn't your first language learning experience. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| BellaLuna Diglot Newbie United States Joined 5043 days ago 21 posts - 37 votes Speaks: Korean*, English Studies: Spanish | Message 29 of 30 27 September 2010 at 5:51am | IP Logged | |||||
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I think I created a thread that'll cause RS's income ><
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| Chris Heptaglot Senior Member Japan Joined 6970 days ago 287 posts - 452 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, Indonesian, French, Malay, Japanese, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Korean, Mongolian | Message 30 of 30 27 September 2010 at 1:39pm | IP Logged | |||||
On this site, I doubt it. It takes a lot of effort and convincing to get someone to part with $1000, and seeds of doubt sown here would give anyone pause for thought. RS must be selling a lot of their courses though, to be able to advertise so much. They have positioned themselves as a household name in personal language learning with one of the worst products on the market, so kudos to their martketing division! They could sell freezers to Eskimos and combs to bald folk, and send them away with a smile. It's a shame that people don't realise they are being hoodwinked by some very clever marketing. Imagine how much really good language stuff you could get for $1000! Instead it's click on the pic, bells, whistles and grunts and, 'Hang on, what's that picture supposed to be anyway?' 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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