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Alan Roskin
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26 February 2014 at 5:32pm | IP Logged 
Hello all,

today we went for a drive in our car.

Goggle translates the above into Italian as follows:

oggi siamo andati a fare un giro in macchina.

'our' is not included in the translation. Is this correct? Also should the noun macchina be accompanied by a
definite article, la?

I shall be grateful for any advice re above.

Cheers,   alan
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drygramul
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26 February 2014 at 6:37pm | IP Logged 
The translation is correct, it's just not literal.

Fare un giro in macchina is a fixed expression, that's why not only neither 'our' nor 'the' are necessary, but they would be absolutely wrong.


However, if you need to put emphasis on whose car it is (as opposed to the car of someone else), you can say
oggi siamo andati a fare un giro nella nostra macchina


Edited by drygramul on 26 February 2014 at 6:38pm

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albysky
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26 February 2014 at 6:41pm | IP Logged 
drygramul wrote:
The translation is correct, it's just not literal.

Fare un giro in macchina is a fixed expression, that's why not only neither 'our' nor 'the' are necessary,
but they would be absolutely wrong.


However, if you need to put emphasis on whose car it is (as opposed to the car of someone else), you can
say
oggi siamo andati a fare un giro nella nostra macchina



I would rather say : oggi siamo andati a fare un giro con la nostra macchina . Doesnt it sound better ?
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drygramul
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26 February 2014 at 6:43pm | IP Logged 
You're absolutely right. My translation is awfully literal :(
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Alan Roskin
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27 February 2014 at 9:59am | IP Logged 
So 'nostra' and the definite article for the noun are needed?
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albysky
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28 February 2014 at 1:44pm | IP Logged 
If you use" nostra" to point out that the car is yours and not someone esle s , you need to use the
definite article" la" . As a general rule you always need to use the definite article with possesive adjactives
, for example : il mio cane, la nostra macchina , il suo portafoglio etc . The only exeption should be with
relatives , you say :
Mio padre , mia madre , nostro cugino etc .

I hope it helps you .

Edited by albysky on 28 February 2014 at 1:46pm

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28 February 2014 at 2:16pm | IP Logged 
It's better if you get a grammar book, OP.


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