Homogenik Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4769 days ago 314 posts - 407 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Polish, Mandarin
| Message 17 of 27 11 October 2013 at 6:17am | IP Logged |
chenshujian wrote:
Josquin wrote:
In German, there's only the expression "sein Coming-Out haben". There's
no idiom related to closets or the like.
A gay person who had his or her coming-out is "geoutet" while someone who is still in the closet is "ungeoutet".
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In French, you can say sortie du placard, sortir du placard, or se faire sortir du placard for being outed (rare), but
many people just say coming out as a noun. "Il a fait son coming out."
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Homogenik Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4769 days ago 314 posts - 407 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Polish, Mandarin
| Message 18 of 27 25 October 2013 at 9:55pm | IP Logged |
Oh and in polish the verb outować (or outować się) is now used although one wouldn't find it in the dictionary.
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beano Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4567 days ago 1049 posts - 2152 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Russian, Serbian, Hungarian
| Message 19 of 27 26 October 2013 at 9:27pm | IP Logged |
Funny how the word "closet" is rarely used in UK English except in the phrases about skeletons and coming
out. I guess it's also encoded in WC, but does anyone actually say water closet?
Edited by beano on 26 October 2013 at 9:27pm
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nicozerpa Triglot Senior Member Argentina Joined 4271 days ago 182 posts - 315 votes Speaks: Spanish*, Portuguese, English Studies: Italian, German
| Message 20 of 27 27 October 2013 at 12:39pm | IP Logged |
beano wrote:
Funny how the word "closet" is rarely used in UK English except in the phrases about skeletons and coming out. |
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Something similar happens in Argentine Spanish. Although "clóset" is a completely valid Spanish word, in my country we use other words, such as "ropero" or less commonly "armario". However, the expression for "to come out of the closet" here is "salir del clóset".
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Henkkles Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4198 days ago 544 posts - 1141 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: Russian
| Message 21 of 27 21 December 2013 at 8:40pm | IP Logged |
BaronBill wrote:
"Coming out of the closet" is an idiom that is used when a gay man/woman publicly reveals they are gay to family and friends and decides to live the gay lifestyle. |
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Is it really proper to refer to it as a lifestyle? I've mostly seen "the gay lifestyle" mentioned among people who want to belittle homosexuality as being about a choice and so on, but I'm not sure. If someone else could give insight, I'd be interested.
In any case, I think that "gay lifestyle" is just as politically correct as "black lifestyle" or speaking of a "lifestyle" considering anything someone is born with.
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James29 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5320 days ago 1265 posts - 2113 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French
| Message 22 of 27 21 December 2013 at 10:34pm | IP Logged |
I have never really thought about this, but I don't think of it as any different than saying the "country lifestyle" or "city lifestyle" or "beach bum lifestyle" or "super rich lifestyle". If a gay person went straight I don't think there would be anything wrong with saying he decided to live a "hetersexual lifestyle". Those "lifestyles" all sound totally normal to me and not at all belittling. I think where you might get into problems is when you start describing what "gay lifestyle" is... then you will get into stereotypes about all sorts of things that may be offensive to some people.
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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6542 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 23 of 27 22 December 2013 at 2:03am | IP Logged |
Except that gay people don't really "go straight", nor bisexual for that matter.
IMO *prior* to coming out one can say that a gay person attempted to live a heterosexual life, but not "had a heterosexual lifestyle". What is a heterosexual lifestyle anyway? Heterosexual people have all sorts of lifestyles and so do gay people. On the other hand, city/country lifestyle is more or less the same everywhere in the world, with adjustments for the climate, culture and so on.
edit: or to be more precise, the city/country lifestyle have some clear differences between them. for the gay/straight lifestyle, you said yourself that the differences are really just stereotypes.
Edited by Serpent on 22 December 2013 at 2:27am
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tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4652 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 24 of 27 22 December 2013 at 2:46pm | IP Logged |
Gay lifestyle doesn't exist, it's only used by people who don't understand sexuality.
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