montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4773 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh
| Message 9 of 26 04 November 2013 at 6:50pm | IP Logged |
I also think it's Yorkshire (rather than Lancashire), and it was the pronunciation of
"Debbie", that suggested it to me.
I don't think his accent was particularly strong, and people from both Lancashire and
Yorkshire generally speak more clearly than people in the south east (in my humble
opinion).
It's only when you get to the north-east and north of the border that things can get hard
to understand, although not always.
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Andrew C Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom naturalarabic.com Joined 5135 days ago 205 posts - 350 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written)
| Message 10 of 26 04 November 2013 at 7:14pm | IP Logged |
The boy was very easy to understand.
It can be difficult to understand strong regional accents at first, but usually it is a case of getting used to it and
this doesn't take very long. Most of the words are the same.
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drygramul Tetraglot Senior Member Italy Joined 4413 days ago 165 posts - 269 votes Speaks: Persian, Italian*, EnglishC2, GermanB2 Studies: French, Polish
| Message 11 of 26 04 November 2013 at 7:18pm | IP Logged |
samfrances wrote:
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Well, but that's different, this one is already a dialect, isn't it? The first video on the contrary was plain English with some accent.
Anyway, I didn't get half of it :|
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Andrew C Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom naturalarabic.com Joined 5135 days ago 205 posts - 350 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written)
| Message 12 of 26 04 November 2013 at 7:25pm | IP Logged |
drygramul wrote:
samfrances wrote:
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Well, but that's different, this one is already a dialect, isn't it? The first video on the contrary was plain
English with some accent.
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That video is a bit unfair! It's a poem using as many Geordie words and cultural references as possible, with a
very thick accent. But actually the words are mainly standard English.
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dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4610 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese
| Message 13 of 26 04 November 2013 at 8:30pm | IP Logged |
Andrew C wrote:
That video is a bit unfair! It's a poem using as many Geordie words and cultural
references as possible, with a
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I've been to Newcastle once or twice and, although the speech you hear all around you
has that Geordie twang to it, no-one was speaking that broadly (at least not within
earshot). That said, it was understandable, but probably only because the context
helped quite a bit: isolated words would have been much harder to parse in real-time.
I'd be mildly surprised if you had to deal with that in normal office life or even
dealing with customers on a daily basis.
The public service film, on the other hand, was very clear.
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1e4e6 Octoglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4235 days ago 1013 posts - 1588 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, Dutch, Swedish, Italian Studies: German, Danish, Russian, Catalan
| Message 14 of 26 04 November 2013 at 8:55pm | IP Logged |
I have lived in Newcastle, and after a long time one will definitely be accustomed to
the accent, but there will always be a case where someone will speak with an accent so
strong that it might still be difficult to understand. I do not live there anymore, but
I can identify the accent in less than one second upon hearing it, like when they are
on holiday. I was in Toronto months ago, and I heard a group of them in a restaurant
and immediately identified the accent.
Yorkshire, especially West Yorkshire, I notice this "éhh" type of ending like in
"Debbie", which almost for me, gives a clear indication.
It is definitely not Mancunian (or Manc). I live in MAnchester, and it sounds quite
different from this man, despite West Yorks. being so close. But that should not be
surprising, Liverpool is about 40 minutes away, and Scouse sounds completely different.
And then even within Greater Manchester (which before 1974 was still part ofLancashire,
although still people say, write, and print, "Manchester, Lancashire"), several months
ago I talked to someone from Rochdale and someone from Chorlton, both of which sounded
quite different themselves.
Edited by 1e4e6 on 04 November 2013 at 10:43pm
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Elexi Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5510 days ago 938 posts - 1840 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German, Latin
| Message 15 of 26 04 November 2013 at 10:18pm | IP Logged |
I'd say Yorkshire too.
Anyway most educated English people have two versions of their accent - the one they
speak with their mates, and a respectable one modulated via RP (or BBC) for speaking in
commercial situations or to foreigners.
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montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4773 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh
| Message 16 of 26 05 November 2013 at 12:03am | IP Logged |
Just for fun Peter Kay
From Bolton, Lancashire, about 10 miles north-west of Manchester.
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