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| nandemonai Diglot Senior Member BelgiumRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4176 days ago 101 posts - 116 votes  Speaks: Dutch*, English Studies: Japanese, Mandarin | Message 729 of 844 05 January 2014 at 12:07am | IP Logged | |||||
Looks like we both made the same mistake in our introduction ^^. Looking forward to being your team mate! I'm also interested in Korean myself but I don't have the time to start any real studying at the moment. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5652 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 730 of 844 05 January 2014 at 12:22am | IP Logged | |||||
僕は仁（じん）というドラマを見たことがあ る。そのドラマが面白いに見た。僕は戸田恵 梨香だけ好きじゃないよ。僕は堀北真希、 新垣結衣、瀧本美織、長澤まさみなど大好き よ。 Thanks for the corrections. It's hard for me to remember whether some constructions are done in the "masu" form or the "te" form, but I'll drill the problematic structures down by reading out loud plenty of example sentences. For Korean, it is much easier to add on the particles to the verb since Korean normally just uses the dictionary form, but then there are other parts that are easier in Japanese. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5652 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 731 of 844 05 January 2014 at 12:26am | IP Logged | |||||
Haha, it happens. To be honest, I have very little output practice in Japanese compared to Korean and Chinese. Almost all of my knowledge is passive in Japanese, as I have coasted along pretty easily due to the grammar similarities between Korean and Japanese, so understanding is fairly easy for me, but actually producing any sentences will probably result in mistakes in the foreseeable future. If you do learn Korean at a later point in time, your time with Japanese will make Korean feel really easy after you get past some of the beginning hurdles. Korean conjugation is just as messy as Japanese, but once you get past that and the beginning grammar structures, you'll find it fairly easy. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5652 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 732 of 844 09 January 2014 at 11:02am | IP Logged | |||||
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I guess today is good for an update. Last year I experimented a little bit with MCDs
for learning vocab, but found it a little cumbersome. However, I'm trying it with a different twist this year. Instead of actively trying to recall the clozed word, I'll always hit the space bar to show the answer and click 'good' each time. I'm basically using this as an aid when I do intensive reading, which makes things go much more smoothly, and without the pressure of trying to get everything correct, I'm studying more and seeing more words (and in context). I decided that I really needed this for Chinese and to a lesser extent, Japanese. I have forgotten quite a bit of Japanese (but it's quickly coming back), and this helps me a lot when reading. For Chinese, there are just way too many unknown words when I try reading any news article, so none of it ever sticks. For Korean, it's basically solidifying what I know and is helping me get through more technical articles, as I need to push my Korean to understand more than what I read in entertainment articles and hear ind dramas. In Chinese, I'm mainly using song lyrics to learn vocabulary. I'm sure I can learn a couple of thousand words this way (I did it for Korean), and it a much more enjoyable manner than trying to do this with some random news articles. Daily Apple has a lot of funny articles that I plan on doing this method with towards the end of the year. RIght now, I'm mainly focused on mining the lyrics for Hebe Tian and Jolin Tsai's songs. The MCDs are helping me understand the songs when I listen to them, too, which is just a great bonus. For Japanese, I'm simply MCD-ing wikipedia articles about stuff I like. I copied some information from Hunter x Hunter, Persona 3, and Full Metal Panic into a word document and I'm going through each paragraph, looking up every unknown word. I'm sure this will take a while to get through, but I think this well help me understand stuff a lot more when it comes to these series. I plan on doing this with drama scripts and song lyrics in the future. In Korean, I'm using this method for political articles and song lyrics, as hiphop songs contain a lot of vocabulary not inherent in pop songs. I plan on trying to branch out into business and science articles in the future, but I can understand political articles fairly well, so I'll keep going until it starts becoming easy. Plus, I just like reading the weird news that always comes out of North Korea. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Hasi Diglot Senior Member Austria Joined 6119 days ago 120 posts - 133 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: Japanese | Message 733 of 844 09 January 2014 at 7:02pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I think using MCD in this way is an intersting approach. I have a question though: what does the answer side of one of those cards contain? Edited by Hasi on 09 January 2014 at 7:02pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5652 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 734 of 844 09 January 2014 at 8:59pm | IP Logged | |||||
Definitions of the clozed words/phrases (usually in English, but sometimes I have to use Korean-Korean definitions for the Korean cards). I ignore grammar as I have separate decks for learning grammar. Naturally, I have the kana/pinyin as well to help me read for Chinese and Japanese cards. Edited by The Real CZ on 09 January 2014 at 9:01pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Hasi Diglot Senior Member Austria Joined 6119 days ago 120 posts - 133 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: Japanese | Message 735 of 844 09 January 2014 at 9:13pm | IP Logged | |||||
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thanks so much for the explaination. that sounds pretty good, I can certainly see this as being useful. next month, when I have more time for anki, I will try it out :)
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| The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5652 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 736 of 844 09 January 2014 at 9:25pm | IP Logged | |||||
What language are you studying? if it's one of the three I'm studying, I can post some examples of what my cards look like so that you can get a visual of it. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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