OneEye Diglot Senior Member Japan Joined 6853 days ago 518 posts - 784 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, Taiwanese, German, French
| Message 81 of 169 01 October 2009 at 3:14am | IP Logged |
JasonBourne wrote:
'09 graduate
Economics Major w/ Japanese Studies Minor
Magna Cum Laude
$30,000 debt
ZERO job prospects
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Are you serious with this? Really? So you graduated a few months ago but haven't gotten a job in your field yet (in the worst economic recession since the Great Depression), and you've already decided that "education is worthless?"
Go get 'em, tiger. That's the can-do attitude I like to see.
PS - I do agree with the above poster who said that an undergrad degree is like the new high school diploma.
PPS - There's a mindset these days that education's sole purpose is to get you a good job. There's so much more to it than that. No wonder our (U.S.) educational system is going downhill so fast, if all there is to education is vocational school. What ever happened to actually getting an education?
Edited by OneEye on 01 October 2009 at 3:16am
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delta910 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5878 days ago 267 posts - 313 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Dutch, German
| Message 82 of 169 01 October 2009 at 3:35am | IP Logged |
sebngwa3 wrote:
Yes, I meant you could join the military and go to DFI. I read that if you get Chinese you are safe doing translations in the States but if you get Arabic you have to interpret in Iraq which can be dangerous: "They'll send you to Iraq, Afghanistan, or Korea every other year if you are an linguist. If you are a Chinese language linguist, you are in good shape, though. You'll be deployed to Maryland for 4 years" http://ph.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ak2hI4QhV0PD NzOK0iIyAOexSAx.;_ylv=3?qid=20090926230616AA5yvZJ |
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I'm probably not going to enlist/join the military actually. For employment, I was thinking more along the lines of FBI or something more along those lines.
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Jiwon Triglot Moderator Korea, South Joined 6439 days ago 1417 posts - 1500 votes Speaks: EnglishC2, Korean*, GermanC1 Studies: Hindi, Spanish Personal Language Map
| Message 83 of 169 01 October 2009 at 9:21am | IP Logged |
Glendonian wrote:
Even the penguin?
I was intellectually starved and unhappy in elementary school. Here in Toronto, the cost of sending two children
(and there were three of us) to private school is just shy of the average Canadian household income. I can certainly
see the advantage of having lots of money for your family, provided it gets invested in good things like this. My
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Yes, even the penguin. I want lots of pets.
Just an elaboration of situation in Korea. If you are a non-science major, some companies just throw away your job application and CV without reading them unless you are a Business major or Economics major.
Such is the harsh reality here. I just need to deal with it. Besides, I can always double major in something else and go on to do postgraduate in something more interesting if I get a chance.
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Belardur Octoglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5614 days ago 148 posts - 195 votes Speaks: English*, GermanC2, Spanish, Dutch, Latin, Ancient Greek, French, Lowland Scots Studies: Biblical Hebrew, Italian, Arabic (Written), Mandarin, Korean
| Message 84 of 169 01 October 2009 at 3:31pm | IP Logged |
Jiwon, I really respect your high aims. My best friend is Korean (working in Seoul), so I know a little about the challenges you are going to face, so good luck reaching your goals.
This does bring up some interesting observations about the value of education and choosing a major in the eyes of employers in many different cultures. I've heard a lot of things from a lot of different places, but it would be great if other people would like to chime in on the comparative value of a "competitive major" as well as what other options exist in a realistic manner.
Edit: OneEye - hear hear!
Edited by Belardur on 01 October 2009 at 3:32pm
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JasonChoi Diglot Senior Member Korea, South Joined 6362 days ago 274 posts - 298 votes Speaks: English*, Korean Studies: Mandarin, Cantonese, Latin
| Message 85 of 169 01 October 2009 at 3:47pm | IP Logged |
I majored in East Asian Languages merely because I wasn't interested in anything majoring in anything else. I studied some linguistics but was quite bored with the courses I took.
I teach English in Korea (and enjoy it), so my major is somewhat relevant.
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sebngwa3 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6167 days ago 200 posts - 217 votes Speaks: Korean*, English
| Message 86 of 169 01 October 2009 at 5:21pm | IP Logged |
JasonChoi wrote:
I majored in East Asian Languages merely because I wasn't interested in anything majoring in anything else. I studied some linguistics but was quite bored with the courses I took.
I teach English in Korea (and enjoy it), so my major is somewhat relevant. |
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There is East Asian Languages major? May I ask what college? I thought most colleges only had Asian Studies in which you have to take some classes on cultures of Asia, not just the languages.
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sebngwa3 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6167 days ago 200 posts - 217 votes Speaks: Korean*, English
| Message 87 of 169 01 October 2009 at 5:22pm | IP Logged |
delta910 wrote:
sebngwa3 wrote:
Yes, I meant you could join the military and go to DFI. I read that if you get Chinese you are safe doing translations in the States but if you get Arabic you have to interpret in Iraq which can be dangerous: "They'll send you to Iraq, Afghanistan, or Korea every other year if you are an linguist. If you are a Chinese language linguist, you are in good shape, though. You'll be deployed to Maryland for 4 years" http://ph.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ak2hI4QhV0PD NzOK0iIyAOexSAx.;_ylv=3?qid=20090926230616AA5yvZJ |
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I'm probably not going to enlist/join the military actually. For employment, I was thinking more along the lines of FBI or something more along those lines. |
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What would you be doing in FBI or CIA? I'm guessing translating foreign documents?
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OneEye Diglot Senior Member Japan Joined 6853 days ago 518 posts - 784 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, Taiwanese, German, French
| Message 88 of 169 01 October 2009 at 6:17pm | IP Logged |
sebngwa3 wrote:
JasonChoi wrote:
I majored in East Asian Languages merely because I wasn't interested in anything majoring in anything else. I studied some linguistics but was quite bored with the courses I took.
I teach English in Korea (and enjoy it), so my major is somewhat relevant. |
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There is East Asian Languages major? May I ask what college? I thought most colleges only had Asian Studies in which you have to take some classes on cultures of Asia, not just the languages. |
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I'm not Jason Choi but I can say that University of Texas at Austin offers a major in Asian Cultures and Languages, which is described as being "intended for students desiring to focus on one country or language," rather than the Asian Studies major, in which you pick a region (East or South Asia) and study more culture than language. This is my major, with an emphasis in Chinese and a minor in Japanese (hopefully). Here are the course requirements for a major in Chinese (outside of the general education requirements, the special requirements for the College of Liberal Arts, and requirements for a minor):
24 semester hours including at least 21 hours of upper-division coursework:
* 3 hours Classical Chinese, chosen from CHI 322 or CHI 340
* 3 hours upper-division Chinese, chosen from CHI 320L, CHI 330, or CHI 340
* 6 additional hours upper-division Chinese coursework
* 3 hours specified Asian Studies Senior Seminar ANS 378
* 9 hours (including 6 upper-division) additional Asian Studies coursework related to China
They require you to choose a minor, and here are the guidelines:
* 12 hours of coursework in an approved area including 6 hours of upper-division coursework
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* 9 hours beyond 507 (including 3 upper-division) in a second foreign language (i.e. a language other than the one used for the Liberal Arts Foreign Language Requirement). Students may choose a minor from virtually any department or program in the university.
You may choose a minor from virtually any department or program in the university. Transfer students should remember that 60 hours must be taken in residence at UT Austin.
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