Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7148 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish
| Message 73 of 267 26 March 2012 at 7:04am | IP Logged |
Update for Finnish, Latvian and Polish
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Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7148 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish
| Message 74 of 267 28 March 2012 at 6:00pm | IP Logged |
I've been flipping through the revised online course in Mari (review of the original course is here) and short course in Erzya over the last few days and am starting to lean towards dabbling in one of these languages this summer as I had done in Inari Saami last summer.
The material for Livonian that I've found is more suitable for someone interested in gaining knowledge of its structure rather than how to use it while otherwise seemingly suitable basic courses in Karelian, Komi and Udmurt use Russian as the intermediary language. I wasn't able to fudge understanding of the explanations by drawing on my background in Slavonic languages other than Russian.
Anyway, is anyone interested in dabbling this summer in Mari or Erzya?
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Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7148 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish
| Message 75 of 267 08 April 2012 at 9:23pm | IP Logged |
Update for Finnish, Latvian and Polish
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hribecek Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5341 days ago 1243 posts - 1458 votes Speaks: English*, Czech, Spanish Studies: Italian, Polish, Slovak, Hungarian, Toki Pona, Russian
| Message 76 of 267 12 April 2012 at 10:34pm | IP Logged |
Hi teammates
Our team has been a bit quite recently with updating their logs (me included), so I thought it was time to try to wake us up a little bit.
So is everybody still in?
Maybe we should try to think of some language activity we can do here to build up a bit more team spirit and co-operation?
Lets write a story in our combined languages. We have to write a sentence in one of our target languages plus the translation in English and then the next person can write the next sentence in the story.
I´ll start -
Byla jednou jedna žába. (Once upon a time there was a frog.)
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Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7148 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish
| Message 77 of 267 12 April 2012 at 10:54pm | IP Logged |
hribecek wrote:
Hi teammates
Our team has been a bit quite recently with updating their logs (me included), so I thought it was time to try to wake us up a little bit. |
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Whadda ya mean? I updated stuff last week! :-P
hribecek wrote:
Byla jednou jedna žába. (Once upon a time there was a frog.) |
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Dan namma lei Kermit. (Its name was Kermit).
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hribecek Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5341 days ago 1243 posts - 1458 votes Speaks: English*, Czech, Spanish Studies: Italian, Polish, Slovak, Hungarian, Toki Pona, Russian
| Message 78 of 267 13 April 2012 at 12:05pm | IP Logged |
Chung wrote:
hribecek wrote:
Hi teammates
Our team has been a bit quite recently with updating their logs (me included), so I thought it was time to try to wake us up a little bit. |
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Whadda ya mean? I updated stuff last week! :-P
hribecek wrote:
Byla jednou jedna žába. (Once upon a time there was a frog.) |
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Dan namma lei Kermit. (Its name was Kermit). |
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You are one of the exceptions.
I've just seen that I spelt 'quiet' as 'quite'. Ooops.
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appelduvide Triglot Newbie United Kingdom Joined 4752 days ago 17 posts - 24 votes Speaks: English*, French, Latin Studies: Ancient Greek, Hungarian, German Studies: Sámi
| Message 79 of 267 16 April 2012 at 10:01pm | IP Logged |
Is it too late to sign up here? I'm currently learning Hungarian and am quite interested in picking up another Uralic language, if I can find enough learning material. North Sámi and Nenets have piqued my interest so far. I listened to a really interesting interview with a Hawaiian speaker on SR Sápmi last night and would have loved to understand the Sámi. The presenters were code-switching English and Swedish quite a lot though, and the Hawaiian speaker's half of the interview was in English. Anyway, if anyone knows of any material on Nenets (bearing in mind I don't speak Russian) it would be much appreciated.
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Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7148 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish
| Message 80 of 267 16 April 2012 at 11:00pm | IP Logged |
appelduvide wrote:
Is it too late to sign up here? I'm currently learning Hungarian and am quite interested in picking up another Uralic language, if I can find enough learning material. North Sámi and Nenets have piqued my interest so far. I listened to a really interesting interview with a Hawaiian speaker on SR Sápmi last night and would have loved to understand the Sámi. The presenters were code-switching English and Swedish quite a lot though, and the Hawaiian speaker's half of the interview was in English. Anyway, if anyone knows of any material on Nenets (bearing in mind I don't speak Russian) it would be much appreciated. |
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Isten hozott! / Bures boahtin!
It'd be great to have you aboard.
For learning material in Saamic languages, check "BOOKS" and "LINKS" in this post. I'd say that there's enough free material online for beginning learners in Northern Saami BUT you'll need to have reading knowledge of one of Danish, Norwegian or Swedish to use it. I learned what I know of Northern Saami primarily with the first volumes of the Finnish edition of "Davvin" instead of those courses in Northern Germanic languages.
If you'd like to learn Northern Saami, get in touch with Kafea who's also learning it. I'm sure that she'd be happy to work with a fellow beginner. In addition if you choose to start with a free, online course such as Gulahalan or Oahpa!, I'm more than willing to guide you or summarize the grammatical topics of the chapter as you work through them since those courses are in Swedish and Norwegian respectively but much of the material is familiar to me already. If you'd also like, I could make you work on a primer for Northern Saami that I designed for hribecek and Kafea.
For Nenets, the most that I can find online in English is description of grammar and description of phonology by Prof. Tapani Salminen, who is a specialist in the language. If you feel strongly enough about it you could send an email to him asking for tips about resources. The rest that I could find is meant for Russian-speakers but rather interesting such as The Russian-Nenets Audio Phrasebook, Comparative Nenets-Nganasan Multimedia Dictionary and 11 lessons of Nenets for Russian-speakers [I can sometimes get the gist of the Russian descriptions thanks to what I know in Polish, Slovak and other Slavonic languages but I don't know enough to use courses released in Russian effectively). For material in English and in hard copy, the only thing that I know of is Gyula Décsy's Yurak Chrestomathy (Yurak is the former "official" name of Nenets) which is just a sketch of the grammar and phonology of the language with a short text and appendix of the Nenets words used in the text. I've browsed it at my university's library and it's hardly worth the $50 US on Amazon's used market right now (let alone the $175 US via Routledge's gouging policy for reprints) as it's designed more for linguists who want a certain understanding of the structure rather than how to read, write and speak Nenets in a useful way.
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