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| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5048 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes  Speaks: Russian* | Message 513 of 672 26 June 2012 at 3:36pm | IP Logged | ||
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Visas are not solely an economic thing. They could make at least a normal visa regime.
The previous rich experiance of unilateral grants has shown that they are fruitless. About me, who spoils the image of Russia. That's how I see the current situation in the world, and I don't have anything against people in any countries or even their governments, but I consider certain states hostile to Russia. I can't explain here why because of the forum format but can do it somewhere else. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| fabriciocarraro Hexaglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Brazil russoparabrasileirosRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4707 days ago 989 posts - 1454 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishB2, Italian, Spanish, Russian, French Studies: Dutch, German, Japanese | Message 514 of 672 26 June 2012 at 3:40pm | IP Logged | ||
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I just want to add that I'm grateful that since June 2010 Brazilians don't need a tourist visa for Russia anymore, and vice-versa, otherwise I'd probably have gotten stuck with all the bureaucracy.
It's not about pride, definitely. It's only politics. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6371 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map | Message 515 of 672 26 June 2012 at 3:45pm | IP Logged | ||
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Let's please move on from the topic of visas. I've already had to delete a couple of posts, and I would prefer not to delete any more.
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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5326 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 516 of 672 26 June 2012 at 3:46pm | IP Logged | ||
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@ Marc, I respect every country's right to have their own rules for visas. Sometimes one might wonder whether national pride and the desire for equality does not get in the way for good economic sense, though.
Russia has some wonderful cities - Moscow and St. Petersburg being the best known ones. If visa regulations were dropped, Russia's economy would have a boost which would be a good thing for everyone with all the money which would be coming inn. The example of Ukraine is not quite the same, because Russia with its big cities is known by every child in the world, whereas Ukraine is relatively little known even in Europe, and they do not even have a tourist office in Kyiv. You ask how many Europeans who go to the Ukraine, well I cannot speak for others, but I have gone there 4 times, and after having seen first hand today how much hazzle it is to get a Russian visa, I suspect that Ukraine is where I will go in the future. Which is sad. Not because I do not love Ukraine, but because I would be prepared to love Russia as well. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5048 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 517 of 672 26 June 2012 at 3:46pm | IP Logged | ||
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I see the American reason, but it does not help us, and it is not pleasant when you have
to prove that you won't stay there and that they actually don't want you to visit their country. They have right to do that, but how can you complain about other countries then? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5326 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 518 of 672 26 June 2012 at 3:51pm | IP Logged | ||
An eye for an eye makes everyone go blind. Sometimes we just have to look at the bigger picture:-) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5048 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 519 of 672 26 June 2012 at 3:55pm | IP Logged | ||
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OK, I see. you can also go to Belarus. The visa is not difficult to get and the country
is, as I heard, more peaceful and pleasant than Russia. Edited by Марк on 26 June 2012 at 4:21pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| drsarvo Diglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 4704 days ago 143 posts - 149 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: Russian | Message 520 of 672 26 June 2012 at 7:30pm | IP Logged | ||
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Привет, дорогие друзья!
I am sorry I have been absent from the forum for so long. I am getting a little stuck with my Russian, nevertheless I keep reading euronews and Assimil (I had to return to lesson 42 in order to review the material, specially movement verbs) and I am watching До свидания лето in youtube, it's very funny and I keep learning new words and expressions. How sad, Russia seems so hostile to visitors. But when you have oil for sell you can afford not worrying to attract foreign tourists. I expect next Sunday Skype session will be performed, at last. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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