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rlnv
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 Message 249 of 439
22 June 2014 at 2:01am | IP Logged 
I agree with Professor Arguelles comment regarding the dryness of Hugo. And for lack of a better way of classifying the course, I see it as a high level overview. It may be for those reasons that, I think it contrasts and complements Assimil. I also have the complete version, but have thus far only completed the French in 3 Months book. Due partly to the April Challenge, I did it very quickly. Probably too quickly, given my level at the time. But I know that I did get value from it. It may be mostly review for you, luke. Enjoy.

luke wrote:

Have you ever just wished your French was better?

Every day. That's why I'm spending as many hours as I do, and obsessing about it as much as I do. It's a slow climb, but I'm certain dedication will get one to the peak. You are dedicated, I see that clearly in your log.
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 Message 250 of 439
22 June 2014 at 2:45am | IP Logged 
rlnv wrote:
I agree with Professor Arguelles comment regarding the dryness of Hugo. And for lack of a better way of classifying the course, I see it as a high level overview. It may be for those reasons that, I think it contrasts and complements Assimil. I also have the complete version, but have thus far only completed the French in 3 Months book. Due partly to the April Challenge, I did it very quickly. Probably too quickly, given my level at the time. But I know that I did get value from it. It may be mostly review for you, luke. Enjoy.

luke wrote:

Have you ever just wished your French was better?

Every day. That's why I'm spending as many hours as I do, and obsessing about it as much as I do. It's a slow climb, but I'm certain dedication will get one to the peak. You are dedicated, I see that clearly in your log.


Merci bien, monsieur. J'ai vu que vous avez écrit NSF chez polydog. Qu'est-ce que c'est NSF?

I reviewed Hugo lesson 1 advanced this evening and also did week 1 from 3 months. Even week one from French in 3 Months taught me a few words and helped me focus on some written details. I think it will be a nice complement to the other stuff I've been doing.

I also listen/read
La Belle et la Bête , which was mentioned in the http://www.ladictee.fr/ Conseils de livres pour les élèves de 6ème category. It's a nice children's story.
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rlnv
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 Message 251 of 439
22 June 2014 at 9:33am | IP Logged 
luke wrote:

Merci bien, monsieur. J'ai vu que vous avez écrit NSF chez polydog. Qu'est-ce que c'est NSF?


I was referring to News in Slow French. I signed up for one month to see how I like it, and I do. I added it to my activity list as a supplemental activity as I have time.
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 Message 252 of 439
22 June 2014 at 12:00pm | IP Logged 
rlnv wrote:
luke wrote:

Merci bien, monsieur. J'ai vu que vous avez écrit NSF chez polydog. Qu'est-ce que c'est NSF?


I was referring to News in Slow French. I signed up for one month to see how I like it, and I do. I added it to my activity list as a supplemental activity as I have time.


Oh, okay, now I remember reading that in your log. When I was googling, all I came up with was the National Science Foundation and that didn't seem like what you meant. :)
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 Message 253 of 439
22 June 2014 at 1:30pm | IP Logged 
rlnv wrote:
luke wrote:

Merci bien, monsieur. J'ai vu que vous avez écrit NSF chez polydog. Qu'est-ce que c'est NSF?


I was referring to News in Slow French. I signed up for one month to see how I like it, and I do. I added it to my activity list as a supplemental activity as I have time.


NSF put me in mind of SNCF (the national rail of France) or SDF (sans domicile fixe), which means "homeless".
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 Message 254 of 439
22 June 2014 at 10:16pm | IP Logged 
Jeffers wrote:
rlnv wrote:
luke wrote:

Merci bien, monsieur. J'ai vu que vous avez écrit NSF chez polydog. Qu'est-ce que c'est NSF?


I was referring to News in Slow French. I signed up for one month to see how I like it, and I do. I added it to my activity list as a supplemental activity as I have time.


NSF put me in mind of SNCF (the national rail of France) or SDF (sans domicile fixe), which means "homeless".


Très bon, Jeffers, or something I don't like to see stamped on a personal check... Non Sufficient Funds.

Edited by luke on 25 June 2014 at 9:35am

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luke
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 Message 255 of 439
25 June 2014 at 9:57am | IP Logged 
Course overload is setting in. I'm looking forward to the "back to front" feature I'm using for French Without Toil (FWT) and New French with Ease to kick in.

Goals:
Less time with courses.
Vary methods to learn material at a deeper level.

Random thoughts this morning...
Do one Assimil intensive, and another extensive. (currently I'm doing 3 fairly intensive). The idea here is to make progress and incorporate review. An extensive track can be 5-10 minutes and one completes the track in just a few weeks.

One thought was doing FWT in the prescribed manner. Listen, look away and repeat, a formal "wave 2" translation. Early lessons could be completed a few per day.

Just do the look away and repeat starting with where I'm at today in the courses.

Add tricky words to Anki. Perhaps do this in a trailing back to front wave. E.G.
FWT current lesson 91 done intensively.
FTW trailing wave 140. Read/look away and repeat
Possibly a third trailing back to front wave doing translation.

I listened a bit to Germinal by Zola from http://www.litteratureaudio.com/livre-audio-gratuit-mp3/zola -emile-germinal.html and that sort of non-study activity is tempting.

Other random thoughts.
Have an intuitive track (Assimil), Grammar track (Hugo), Doing track (FSI), and an extensive track.

Right now I've just got too many courses going. It's nice to finish a trip through before changing course, which brings me to...

Hugo - I've done a fairly quick first pass at the first 3 (of 9) chapters of the Advanced course. It does seem helpful. I've also done the first 3 (of 12) weeks in the 3 months course. The written exercises there also seem helpful. Doing an advanced lesson and a week from the 3 months course in a single day along with the three Assimil tracks and FSI was manageable (and there was an end in sight) when my wife was out of town and I was working more from home. For normal times, that's too much, as my escape to this log indicates.

Back to the grind. Business French review wave is on lessons 16/17 (of 40). FWT was lesson 112, being a review lesson meant listen/reading the previous 6, as well as the trailing 7. NFWE will be on lesson 98 today.
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rlnv
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 Message 256 of 439
25 June 2014 at 8:19pm | IP Logged 
luke wrote:
Course overload is setting in. I'm looking forward to the "back to front" feature I'm using for French Without Toil (FWT) and New French with Ease to kick in.

....


Have you given thought to doing extensive watching of a series of French shows? I've read opinions in various threads where the author advocates extensive input. Also I've seen emk mention doing massive input with the Buffy series, in his log.

My understanding is that it works best with a series that has accurate French transcriptions. Also, a show that uses a lot of common every day language may be most helpful. I'll be going down this road, after I empty my current queue, so maybe in a couple months.   


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