luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7208 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French
| Message 257 of 439 25 June 2014 at 10:47pm | IP Logged |
rlnv wrote:
luke wrote:
Course overload is setting in. I'm looking forward to the "back to front" feature
I'm using for French Without Toil (FWT) and New French with Ease to kick in.
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Have you given thought to doing extensive watching of a series of French shows? I've read opinions in
various threads where the author advocates extensive input. Also I've seen emk mention doing massive
input with the Buffy series, in his log.
My understanding is that it works best with a series that has accurate French transcriptions. Also, a show
that uses a lot of common every day language may be most helpful. I'll be going down this road, after I empty
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That's a great idea. I guess it's a question of finding the right series at the right level. I haven't been
watching much in the line of "drama" for a long time. Most of what I see is competitive reality shows like The
Apprentice, MasterChef, Top Chef, Hell's Kitchen, and Biggest Loser.
Hopefully you'll have some suggestions for me down the road :) By then, my queue may have opened up as
well.
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sctroyenne Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5394 days ago 739 posts - 1312 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Spanish, Irish
| Message 258 of 439 26 June 2014 at 5:39am | IP Logged |
luke wrote:
That's a great idea. I guess it's a question of finding the right series at the right level. I haven't been
watching much in the line of "drama" for a long time. Most of what I see is competitive reality shows like The
Apprentice, MasterChef, Top Chef, Hell's Kitchen, and Biggest Loser. |
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They have those in French too :)
Edited by sctroyenne on 26 June 2014 at 5:53am
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luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7208 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French
| Message 259 of 439 26 June 2014 at 11:54am | IP Logged |
sctroyenne wrote:
luke wrote:
Most of what I see is competitive reality shows like The Apprentice, MasterChef, Top Chef, Hell's Kitchen, and
Biggest Loser. |
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They have those in French too :) |
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Then everything will work out alright.
Who says that French is culturally bankrupt?
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sctroyenne Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5394 days ago 739 posts - 1312 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Spanish, Irish
| Message 260 of 439 26 June 2014 at 6:12pm | IP Logged |
I love watching the less "honorable" television selection because it helps you see the
diversity of French culture - not everyone is a philosopher sipping espresso at a
Parisian café or a fashionista.
One cooking-centered show I like is Un dîner presque parfait where 5 people take turns
throwing a dinner party and they rate each other. Reality TV poses many challenges but I
think it's good to test the waters a bit with more challenging material (no need to go
full hog and devote yourself to a "reality TV method" or anything). Plus aspects of
reality will be less challenging - plenty of narration, endless recaps, a set structure,
and the same old familiar reality tropes that we've all come to know should make it easy
to follow despite all the rapid, informal speech.
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luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7208 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French
| Message 261 of 439 27 June 2014 at 2:05am | IP Logged |
sctroyenne wrote:
One cooking-centered show I like is Un dîner presque parfait where 5 people take
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Quelle bonne surprise! That looks very interesting and it's easy to find on youtube. Merci beaucoup!
Edited by luke on 27 June 2014 at 8:46am
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luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7208 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French
| Message 262 of 439 27 June 2014 at 8:50am | IP Logged |
I thought of a couple things this morning...
NFWE snuck into the lineup because I couldn't put my fingers on the CDs. It was meant to be a salle de bains study.
A couple weeks ago I felt like taking a day off of French after an intensive bout. That might have been helpful. Assimil courses have their "one a day" method, and that disuaded me from a break. I think imagining you'll lose something by taking a day off when you've been studying dilligently for a long time is a not clear thinking.
The Un dîner presque parfait could have been a guilt free vacation that day as well.
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Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4912 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German
| Message 263 of 439 27 June 2014 at 12:01pm | IP Logged |
luke wrote:
Assimil courses have their "one a day" method, and that disuaded me from a
break. I think imagining you'll lose something by taking a day off when you've been
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Like you, I used to think that Assimil would work better if you stick to the "one a day"
formula. Now, if I were to do it again, I think I'd follow a "week on week off"
timetable with Assimil, and do different things on the alternate week. That would give
the completed lessons a bit more time to sink in before moving on to new material.
Leosmith had a thread about his "bow wave theory" which helped convince me that taking
breaks were a good idea. But for me, the break would be switching to another style of
learning.
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songlines Pro Member Canada flickr.com/photos/cp Joined 5212 days ago 729 posts - 1056 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French Personal Language Map
| Message 264 of 439 28 June 2014 at 3:25am | IP Logged |
Jeffers wrote:
luke wrote:
Assimil courses have their "one a day" method, and that disuaded me
from a break. I think imagining you'll lose something by taking a day off when you've been
studying dilligently for a long time is a not clear thinking. |
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Like you, I used to think that Assimil would work better if you stick to the "one a day"
formula. Now, if I were to do it again, I think I'd follow a "week on week off"
timetable with Assimil, and do different things on the alternate week. That would give
the completed lessons a bit more time to sink in before moving on to new material.
Leosmith had a thread about his "bow wave theory" which helped convince me that taking
breaks were a good idea. But for me, the break would be switching to another style of
learning. |
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(Not to derail your log thread, but I know you'd been interested in Leosmith's "bow wave" theory, Luke..)
And here's the link.
Bow wave
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