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JohannaNYC Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4444 days ago 251 posts - 361 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English*, Italian Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Arabic (Egyptian)
| Message 513 of 902 17 December 2012 at 7:38pm | IP Logged |
Serpent wrote:
My suggestions for next year: discuss TAC in the Senior forum first. Preferably, no
team should be so elitist that they get a bunch of elders and then close the signups,
but it SHOULD be only long-term members that start teams.
For now... any senior member who is ready to try and fix you-know-who should be allowed
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Define long term, how many days must one have been a member to be considered long
term?? Or is it by number of posts?? And if no one who fits that description steps up
then certain teams should not be given a chance to exist?
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6589 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 514 of 902 17 December 2012 at 8:26pm | IP Logged |
Ideally, a team leader should have TAC experience, this is also what Brun Ugle said. The whole chaos happened because one team was started by a newbie who doesn't even have the right to post links. Rather than letting anyone to start the thread and THEN electing a leader, the thread should simply be started only by a long-term member. It is the starter of the thread who should take care of the member list on the first page and preferably other stuff like that.
Anyway, maybe a better way to put it is just that the bigger the language, the bigger the requirements for the team leader. big teams should be started by experienced members, as there's no shortage of them.
Technically, as the initial discussion ("hi elders, what teams are you interested in?") would be happening in the senior subforum, anyone with 100+ posts should be able to give some input and possibly start a team. in fact, ideally in each big team (like Russian) there should be one or two people ready to start a new team from the beginning, rather than waiting till the first one is full.
I'm not saying two teams per language/family should be started from the beginning, but everyone should be encouraged to think "hm do i want to be the leader of a smaller team if needed?" It would technically not be much different from rejecting people that were initially accepted, but some of those with enough experience would be open to the possibility from the beginning, so there are better chances of two equal teams, rather than one which has too many awesome people, and then another one started by those who HAVE TO because they can no longer join the first one.
I myself would certainly prefer if anyone who gets to start a team has not only 100+ posts but also 200+ days on the forum. But that depends on the sort of posts you have, of course.
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| mrwarper Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Spain forum_posts.asp?TID=Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5218 days ago 1493 posts - 2500 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2 Studies: German, Russian, Japanese
| Message 515 of 902 17 December 2012 at 9:07pm | IP Logged |
Seeing so much fuss and discussion about rules and how thing should be and not be done, and what people should allowed to do depending on this and that... aren't we taking the whole thing a tad too seriously?
I'd never have thought I'd miss some more 'fun' supporters... ;)
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| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7148 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish
| Message 516 of 902 17 December 2012 at 9:10pm | IP Logged |
I guess that I could speak up more, but meh...
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| Ogrim Heptaglot Senior Member France Joined 4631 days ago 991 posts - 1896 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, French, Romansh, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Catalan, Latin, Greek, Romanian
| Message 517 of 902 17 December 2012 at 9:15pm | IP Logged |
mrwarper wrote:
Seeing so much fuss and discussion about rules and how thing should be and not be done, and what people should allowed to do depending on this and that... aren't we taking the whole thing a tad too seriously?
I'd never have thought I'd miss some more 'fun' supporters... ;) |
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Be assured, I am in it for the fun. After all, we are all supposed to be enthusiasts doing the TAC because we are passionate about learning languages, right? My experience with HTLAL is that it is sort of the perfect example of organised anarchy. The "boss" is more or less absent, and the citizens of this world organise themselves as they best see fit. A few decide to take the lead, but it is up to all of us whether we want to follow or not. I myself have no problem with accepting the leadership of those who take the time and trouble to do the tedious work. I could never do it.
Edited by Ogrim on 17 December 2012 at 9:16pm
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| JohannaNYC Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4444 days ago 251 posts - 361 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English*, Italian Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Arabic (Egyptian)
| Message 518 of 902 17 December 2012 at 10:02pm | IP Logged |
Yes, Serpent we know what happened, but what's done is done. Hindsight is 20/20 and I'm
sure in the future your points will be taken into account. I don't think all this drama
is making the situation any better.
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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5326 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 519 of 902 18 December 2012 at 12:17am | IP Logged |
I am happy to announce that I have been chosen as Captain of the proud team MIR, and that I intend to lead my little flock to victory over all procrastination and bad study habits, into the land of efficient study, self confidence and above all - fun, and team spirit!
Brun Ugle, you can therefore contact me for anything that regards team MIR.
Until the second Russian team is definitely formed I would invite the current members of it to participate in team MIR's thread. If they turn out to be so few that they will join our glorious team, they will already be well integrated, and if there are many enough to be a team of their own, we will be sister teams, and will already have a good knowledge of each other, and can have a good cooperation and possibly a friendly competition.
As for team Sparta, LanguageSponge has been unanimously elected as our general and leader, and we are proud to follow him into any battle, any challenge and any crazy adventure he should chose to lead us into. With blind faith and trust in him, we will fight like true Spartans, with victory or death our only options!
We are ready!
Edited by Solfrid Cristin on 18 December 2012 at 12:18am
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| Flarioca Heptaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5874 days ago 635 posts - 816 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Esperanto, French, EnglishC2, Spanish, German, Italian Studies: Catalan, Mandarin
| Message 520 of 902 18 December 2012 at 12:26am | IP Logged |
I'd also like to thak Brun Ugle for the organization of this very complex TAC '13.
However, I must say that this is the correct link to my log. I won't rename it now, for it's my TAC '12 log.
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