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mrwarper Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Spain forum_posts.asp?TID=Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5218 days ago 1493 posts - 2500 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2 Studies: German, Russian, Japanese
| Message 329 of 586 09 January 2013 at 1:42am | IP Logged |
Josquin wrote:
[...] For me, both hard and soft л and ш and щ are nearly impossible to distinguish. I think I'm getting to a point where I can make a distinction between ш and щ, but л and ль? Forget it! [...] |
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In one of the links that tarvos will fix or re-paste at the beginning of the team thread some day, you can get to this page with diagrams and descriptions of Russian letters pronunciation (a resource I mention and link to all the time). With that and Mark's advice about л (avoid the teeth/alveoli!) I've come a long way with both of those pairs. Sure, I'm still in doubt when I hear them and I'm no pronunciation master but that's because I get very little practice. However, the difference becomes obvious after a few tries.
Edited by mrwarper on 09 January 2013 at 1:47am
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| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5048 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 330 of 586 09 January 2013 at 8:59am | IP Logged |
Josquin wrote:
but I think you shouldn't argue with a native speaker about his
language. Although Mark can be very critical, I always found his suggestions very
useful, and learning a language well doesn't mean sounding "bookish". We already had
this discussion in the "Should one learn slang" thread. Of course one should know
colloquial language, but you should also know when it's called for.
Other than that, I agree with Cristina that this isn't Team Война...
EDIT: For me, both hard and soft л and ш and щ are nearly impossible to distinguish. I
think I'm getting to a point where I can make a distinction between ш and щ, but л and
ль? Forget it! The worst word I can think of is большой. I never get the combination of
soft л and hard ш right. If the Russians let me decide, that word would be called
болщой... |
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Thank you for your support. The fact that I'm a native Russian speaker doesn't mean
that I know everything about the Russian language and am always right about it.
The soft L is almost like the German L, so you have to pay attention only to the hard
one. German sch is also rather hard (a textbook of German says it is always hard, and
the l is always soft). Болщой is as inconvinient as большой. It would be better болшой
or больщой. I don't know why vut you softened your ш, ж at the beginning.
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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5326 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 331 of 586 09 January 2013 at 4:38pm | IP Logged |
Captain of Mir calling out for pilot and crew: Are we ready for a Skype session on this Sunday evening at 8
Norwegian time? Tarvos - could you take charge? Now I know some of you are nervous to do this, and we
will not have room for everybody at the same time anyhow - I think the maximum is 10 at the time. I therefore
suggest that those of you who feel ready for it and who have or can create a Skype account signal their
readiness by saying so, and listing here what their Skype name is so that we can all add each other well
ahead of Sunday, and then the rest can come when they are ready. I think we had 2-3 sessions before we
did much more than introduce ourselves and have a general chat on team Sputnik, but if you feel like starting
doing some Russian right away, we can of course do that. Another thing which we did, and which we may
want to do on team Mir too, is to speak some of our other languages.
So who are in?
We must expect that one or two either forget about it or have technical difficulties, so I think we could try to
make room for as many as 12, in the worst case scenario two might have to wait for next session. I do
however never think we reached 10 in any of our team Sputnik sessions, so I doubt it will be a problem.
And for the record: I'm in :-)
My Skype name is Solfridcristin. I think.
Edited by Solfrid Cristin on 09 January 2013 at 4:42pm
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| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4836 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian
| Message 332 of 586 09 January 2013 at 5:18pm | IP Logged |
Hi, I'm in for a Skype session. My Skype name is discantor.
Looking forward to talk to all of you! "Skype me maybe..." ;)
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4699 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 333 of 586 09 January 2013 at 5:21pm | IP Logged |
Ok, but I do have an ethics exam to pass, so don't expect the conversation to last for 3
hours :)
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| aloysius Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6232 days ago 226 posts - 291 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, German Studies: French, Greek, Italian, Russian
| Message 334 of 586 09 January 2013 at 8:04pm | IP Logged |
I have an exam to pass too :) But I will try to join you. Just must remember to install Skype on my Mac. I'm ljonask1
by the way.
//aloysius
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| fabriciocarraro Hexaglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Brazil russoparabrasileirosRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4707 days ago 989 posts - 1454 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishB2, Italian, Spanish, Russian, French Studies: Dutch, German, Japanese
| Message 335 of 586 09 January 2013 at 8:07pm | IP Logged |
I'm in guys! =) My skype name is facarraro
Edited by fabriciocarraro on 09 January 2013 at 8:07pm
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| LanguageSponge Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5758 days ago 1197 posts - 1487 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Welsh, Russian, Japanese, Slovenian, Greek, Italian
| Message 336 of 586 09 January 2013 at 8:28pm | IP Logged |
8 pm Norwegian time is... gasp, okay, I'm in :) I'll take an early (or late) night.
I am not sure whether it matters but Cristina's Skype name is all in lower case, so it's solfridcristin
Mine is jack_boni and to reiterate, I'm in for Sunday's (or in my case, Monday morning's) chat. Looking forward to it :)
Jack
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