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| sans-serif Tetraglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4551 days ago 298 posts - 470 votes  Speaks: Finnish*, English, German, Swedish Studies: Danish | Message 313 of 553 28 January 2013 at 7:37am | IP Logged | |||||
It's because of the word 'kanske', which is an odd case among adverbs, possibly because it's technically just the words 'kan' and 'ske' written together. From what I understand, it can be used both with V2 and normal word order, although I'm not sure whether one or the other is considered more correct. Jeff? My hunch is that your example is the traditional usage. It's essentially equivalent to: I morgon bitti kan ske att de är föräldrar. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6901 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 314 of 553 28 January 2013 at 9:35am | IP Logged | |||||
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"Kanske" is the wild card in Swedish grammar. You can put it nearly anywhere in the sentences, as long as it's "close enough". Consider these simple three-word sentences:
De kommer kanske. De kanske kommer. Kanske de kommer. Kanske kommer de. All work, all are nearly equally common, there's no informal/formal register, no dialectal usage... Your sentence with variations: I morgon bitti kanske de är föräldrar. I morgon bitti är de kanske föräldrar. Kanske de är föräldrar i morgon bitti. Kanske är de föräldrar i morgon bitti. (Kanske är de i morgon bitti föräldrar) (not wrong, but this sounds odd) Edited by jeff_lindqvist on 28 January 2013 at 7:37pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Emme Triglot Senior Member Italy Joined 5339 days ago 980 posts - 1594 votes Speaks: Italian*, English, German Studies: Russian, Swedish, French | Message 315 of 553 28 January 2013 at 5:44pm | IP Logged | |||||
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@jeff_lindqvist Thanks so much for the explanations! I’ve been puzzling over that sentence for a couple of weeks, but now at last I can see where the problem was. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Kez Diglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4349 days ago 181 posts - 212 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English Studies: Swedish | Message 316 of 553 29 January 2013 at 8:20am | IP Logged | |||||
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Had time to do another challenge:
Mini Viking-Challenge #6. Where do you go on holiday? Write five sentences about your favourite destination. Jag älskar att åka till Sverige eftersom landet har så mycket vackert natur. Men jag älskar mer än bara naturen i Sverige. Människor i Sverige är jättefina och gästvänliga. Sverige är också är ett bra land om du tycker om att åka snowboard, som jag gör. Jag har också varit i Götebörg och jag tyckte att det var en vacker stad. Jag kan inte vänta att se mer av Sverige! I was also wondering, maybe we could organize a Skype chat soon? We don't have to speak our TL right away but maybe just speak English to get to know eachother and we could always switch do a TL. Edit: Skype list: - Kez - Expugnator - Solfrid_Cristina Edited by Kez on 29 January 2013 at 2:08pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5158 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 317 of 553 29 January 2013 at 12:26pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Count me in for the Skype session, Kez!
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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5326 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 318 of 553 29 January 2013 at 1:27pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I can join you if you like. I think any sort of communication in any of the three Scandinavian languages would
benefit the other two, and if Jeff joins too, we can have one of the situations which is normal to us, but mind boggling to most foreigners, of a Norwegian and a Swede talking to each other in their respective languages. And if we really want a giggling session the two of us could speak in Swedish only or in Norwegian only. How many of you are at a level where you would like to engage in an actual conversation? On team Sputnik we were all scared to death by the prospect of actually speaking Russian in the beginning, so we spoke English and any other language we had in common except from Russian. Then after a couple of sessions where we had introduced ourselves, and our reasons for studying the language, we moved on to reading dialogue ( knowing that the sentences themselves were correct, and that all we could mess up was the pronunciation felt safer) and then only after a long time did we move onto any sort of free conversation. Of course, we did not have any native speakers available. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Kez Diglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4349 days ago 181 posts - 212 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English Studies: Swedish | Message 319 of 553 29 January 2013 at 1:31pm | IP Logged | |||||
Would be great if you and Jeff could join, and ofcourse always fun to hear you speak it. And yeah, ofcourse I would love to give it a try to just speak Swedish, eventhough I won't be very succesfull. I could always ask my girlfriend to join us as a native Swede as well, if Jeff can't. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5158 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 320 of 553 29 January 2013 at 1:54pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I could understand about half of what you said in Norwegian, Cristina, I think that's a
start. I can also try to say a few obvious things. Besides, there's always room for dealing with the tricky Norwegian vowels. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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