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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5373 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes  Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 17 of 137 24 January 2013 at 6:25pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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So, Sprachprofi, how's Yvon Deschamps coming along? :)
I decided -- following Sprachprofi's recommendation -- to give Assimil Roumain a try. I have nothing negative to say so far -- it gives a lot more details than Pimsleur could allow you to figure out and the pace is fine. I'm at lesson 9. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6462 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 18 of 137 24 January 2013 at 10:14pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
That's precisely why I like doing it. I like feeling obliged to learn languages, and my life is not generally too stressful for daily language study, except when I have guests. I know your life is very different.
Thanks for the gentle reminder ;-) I might make it a goal to listen to one piece of his every day. Today I listened to "Politiquement on est donc mélangés". I listened to it twice and I understood almost every word in most of the routine, except for one section where I didn't get even the gist. If you can get your hands on this, can you let me know what he says there? I understood the part about the parties. Then, I don't understand anything for a short bit around where he talks about drinking (?) up to the mention of St Jean Baptiste. Then, I understand everything about them wanting Québec to be French, and also about Anglos copying stuff, up to the end.
Yay! Assimil does sometimes introduce something new without explaining it, or without explaining it sufficiently. Then you should look for the next summary lesson (every 7th lesson), which should explain it in detail. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6589 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 19 of 137 25 January 2013 at 1:32am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Oh now you make me wanna try Assimil Romanian!
Yay about learning it :) Sprachprofi, go for Portuguese :PPP Edited by Serpent on 25 January 2013 at 1:33am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5373 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 20 of 137 25 January 2013 at 1:41am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Yup, now onto lesson 17! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5373 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 21 of 137 27 January 2013 at 2:47am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I am now on lesson 26 of Assimil Romanian, but I spent a fair amount of time today going back and listening to
every recording from the beginning up to lesson 25 -- I have some hearing issues and wanted to wait until I was in an optimal environment to do so. All in all, I did ok, although I forgot vocab and a few things that have only been quickly explained in passing at this point. Who cares if I don't remember "matches" anyway? I read a bit of that other Assimil experiment thread on HTLAL. It's interesting to see people's comments and, often, frustrations. I'm not doing the one lesson a day, though -- I don't have the patience -- so my experience may vary. However, I had done some Pimsleur earlier on. I've averaged 8-9 lessons a day. Obviously, after lesson 20 or so, it starts to get more dense, so I'm sure I'll be slowing down, and the time I have daily can greatly vary. I found a Romanian deck and added it to Anki, along with the Esperanto and German decks I try to do daily. It's not my favourite activity, but I get exposed to new words. I also spent some time writing Esperanto correspondence. Edited by Arekkusu on 27 January 2013 at 6:30am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6462 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 22 of 137 27 January 2013 at 12:58pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Arekkusu helped me understand that one piece by Yvon Deschamps and I have since
listened to two more. I remember being in Montréal on my first trip outside of Europe and it was the time of the Just for Laughs festival. Unfortunately I could only attend English-language shows at the time. If I get the chance again, I definitely want to be able to see French-language comedians. Yvon Deschamps speaks Québécois, not the clinical international French I hear from Radio Canada anchors, and I enjoy the accent. My boyfriend, who speaks 6 languages without showing any particular passion for language-learning, is planning a trip to Geneva and has been studying French for at least an hour a day lately, sometimes staying up late for that. He's using Duolingo and is enjoying it a lot. For this reason, I decided to give Duolingo a fair try, more than the cursory look I had previously. So for the 6 Week Challenge, I shall attempt to learn basic Portuguese from Duolingo. At the same time I'm hoping to improve and disambiguate my Italian and Spanish by reviewing the equivalent Duolingo for Italian and Spanish. If I get fed up with that, there's Eurocom as an alternative. My biggest goal for Portuguese is to be able to read it for pleasure - right now I can make sense of it when I look at the words hard enough, but it's not fun to read a book that way. I have a beautiful anniversary edition of "O Alquimista" that I'd like to read, and also two other Portuguese books that look interesting that I couldn't resist buying. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5373 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 23 of 137 29 January 2013 at 4:51am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Sunday
Anki: Romanian, German, Esperanto Romanian: Assimil, lesson 31. Esperanto: Correspondence German: read a very interesting graphic novel, "Aufzeichnungen aus Jerusalem". 73 pages. Monday Anki: Esperanto, German, Romanian Assimil Roumain: lesson 36 German: Aufzeichnungen..., read 27 pages. Sprachprofi, how is Duolingo going? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6462 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 24 of 137 29 January 2013 at 11:44am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Duolingo can be surprisingly addictive. The 6WC hasn't started yet, so I've just been
brushing up my Italian and my logs show that I inadvertently spent 3.5 hours just on Duolingo in the last two days. Granted most of the Italian was a review for me, so I just tested out of a bunch of levels (now on level 8, having supposedly learned 462 words), but I did find it a satisfying way to re-activate my knowledge and to review my verb conjugations and vocabulary fields like clothing, professions, furniture, animals. I don't like that they teach a whole bunch of animal words right at the beginning (complained about it at http://www.reddit.com/r/duolingo/comments/17d6qt/why_animals _so_early/) but supposedly their course creators didn't see another way to generate a lot of possible sentences with limited vocabulary. I'm not sure how addictive or educational Duolingo is when starting a language from scratch and progress is slower; I shall see that with Portuguese. Also, I only just embarked on Spanish. The structure of the Italian and Spanish courses already seem very similar so far, so I believe that Duolingo will be suitable for comparative study. Apart from Duolingo, I have studied Chinese ways of expression by comparing two translations of Arekkusu's article on self-talk: one that I wrote and one that I got from a native speaker. I also got a fast Chinese audio version of the article, which I shall use to investigate word slurring and sentence-level intonation. I have also continued to read my chosen Greek book, usually in bursts of 10-16 pages / 20-40 minutes. On page 185 now. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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