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Flarioca Heptaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5874 days ago 635 posts - 816 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Esperanto, French, EnglishC2, Spanish, German, Italian Studies: Catalan, Mandarin
| Message 17 of 128 24 March 2013 at 7:41pm | IP Logged |
Thanks to a HTLAL thread by iguanamon, one may discover a nice website about Chinese Characters Network.
Some people might be very interested about their proposed (if I get it right) Learning Order List.
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| Flarioca Heptaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5874 days ago 635 posts - 816 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Esperanto, French, EnglishC2, Spanish, German, Italian Studies: Catalan, Mandarin
| Message 18 of 128 26 March 2013 at 2:54pm | IP Logged |
Total Mandarin CD 4 is over.
It seems that both "The Sounds of Chinese" and the MT course will be finished at about the same time. Well, at least I have both 25% completed ...
Of course, there'll still be lots of work about pronunciation and I've even bought another book, namely "McGraw-Hill's Chinese Pronunciation with CD-ROM".
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| Flarioca Heptaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5874 days ago 635 posts - 816 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Esperanto, French, EnglishC2, Spanish, German, Italian Studies: Catalan, Mandarin
| Message 19 of 128 27 March 2013 at 3:01am | IP Logged |
The paper "Effects of hanyu pinyin on pronunciation in learners of Chinese as a foreign language" makes me even more sure about my decisions of learning Zhuyin and working hard on Mandarin phonetics/phonology.
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| Flarioca Heptaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5874 days ago 635 posts - 816 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Esperanto, French, EnglishC2, Spanish, German, Italian Studies: Catalan, Mandarin
| Message 20 of 128 28 March 2013 at 4:40pm | IP Logged |
Although I'm not yet learning the Chinese characters, it was clear that I should see how to input characters. This was very easy for my iPhone, even more with Pleco, which is already configued to show Zhuyin.
For my PC, the solution, possibly not the best one but it works, was to install the tradional Chinese keyboard, configure to zhuyin input and add simplified characters to the set of characters. I've also added the CNS 11643 character set, though I don't really know how this affects everything.
My obvious first use of this new keyboard configuration: 你好吗
There's also this interesting Zhuyin online input site.
Edited by Flarioca on 28 March 2013 at 5:06pm
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| Flarioca Heptaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5874 days ago 635 posts - 816 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Esperanto, French, EnglishC2, Spanish, German, Italian Studies: Catalan, Mandarin
| Message 21 of 128 29 March 2013 at 3:04pm | IP Logged |
My Zhuyin keyboard stickers have arrived and now it's clear for me that besides other advantages of Zhuyin, its keyboard layout is quite logical and interesting.
I'm still trying to memorize some of these symbols but I'm already able to use them in my keyboard, because the pattern is so simple to understand.
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| Flarioca Heptaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5874 days ago 635 posts - 816 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Esperanto, French, EnglishC2, Spanish, German, Italian Studies: Catalan, Mandarin
| Message 22 of 128 31 March 2013 at 6:29pm | IP Logged |
Total Mandarin Chinese CD 5 has been finished today and my pace is not likely to increase.
Although I still haven't memorized all Zhunyin symbols, it's already very easy to use them in order to enter Chinese characters, which I'm not yet studying, though my "contact" with them increased during these "phonetical experiments".
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| Flarioca Heptaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5874 days ago 635 posts - 816 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Esperanto, French, EnglishC2, Spanish, German, Italian Studies: Catalan, Mandarin
| Message 23 of 128 03 April 2013 at 3:58pm | IP Logged |
I'm starting to use the pause button, which I didn't do during the first 5 CDs. It makes the lessons much more enjoyable, which also means that I'm increasing my daily amount of MT.
I must also admit that I'm testing my phonetic awareness, trying to look for some words in my so far preferred online dictionary, typing Zhuyin whenever possible (sometimes Pyinin or even English are needed to check it out).
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| Flarioca Heptaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5874 days ago 635 posts - 816 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Esperanto, French, EnglishC2, Spanish, German, Italian Studies: Catalan, Mandarin
| Message 24 of 128 05 April 2013 at 4:34pm | IP Logged |
TMC 6 finished. The use of the pause button, even when the answer doesn't seem hard to get to, has been a wise decision. I'm forgetting the words less and less.
However, I must also admit that whenever a new word is presented, I try to test if the corresponding sound has been well understood and if I can write it using Zhuyin. Which means that I'm also seeing the word's Pinyin (and its Chinese Character as well, but without trying at all to learn it now).
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