Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5527 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese
| Message 73 of 120 01 February 2014 at 2:56pm | IP Logged |
Kami, here are a few quick corrections to your post:
1) 와/과 do not have a space in front of them; they are attached to the word in front.
Thus it would be 학생과 rather than 학생 과.
2) 과 only follows words with a final consonant and 와 only follows words without one.
Thus it is 프랑스어와 rather than 프랑스어과.
3) While subject and object particles are optional in Korean, sentences usually flow a bit
better with them (and the more you listen the more you realize that Koreans don't drop
them as often as you'd think they would). As such, 음악을 and 한국어를 make those
sentences sound better in my opinion (though again they are still understandable and
correct without them).
Also a vocabulary tip: If you didn't already know there are actually two words for the
French language in Korean. One is the word you used above 프랑스어 and the other is 불
어(佛語). The former is probably more common, but it probably wouldn't hurt to recognize
the latter if you see it.
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Kami Groupie United States Joined 4511 days ago 55 posts - 62 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, Korean
| Message 74 of 120 07 February 2014 at 3:55am | IP Logged |
Thanks for the corrections! Haha I still have a long way to go and your input really
helps!
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Tarko Senior Member Korea, South Joined 4683 days ago 119 posts - 148 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean, French
| Message 75 of 120 25 February 2014 at 1:13pm | IP Logged |
How goes the studying, Team Gumiho? Have you learned any interesting grammatical points recently? Any fun words stick in your head?
I recently learned this word: 백수 (Eng: baeksu, Han: 白手), which means "unemployed/jobless/a person who doesn't work" (일을 안 하거나 직업이 없는 사람). "백" means "white" and "수" means "hand." If you work for a living your hands are dirty but if you're a baeksu your hands are clean, or white.
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Evita Tetraglot Senior Member Latvia learnlatvian.info Joined 6544 days ago 734 posts - 1036 votes Speaks: Latvian*, English, German, Russian Studies: Korean, Finnish
| Message 76 of 120 25 February 2014 at 2:19pm | IP Logged |
I learned 백수 when I was rewatching Secret Garden for the umpteenth time (and then looking it up in the script), it's in episode 2, this scene around 07:05. It's fun learning words that way because then they stick in your head very easily.
One of my favorite Korean words is 특별한. I don't remember where I heard or saw it first but I like how it sounds and it's always been easy for me to remember it.
One of the very very easiest Korean words for me was 네모 (square) because of Nemo the fish. This word doesn't appear in dramas or in textbooks but I can still remember it perfectly well.
들려주다 is one of those words where you need a solid grasp on Korean grammar in order to understand it properly. "to give the favor of being audible or making heard" is not something you would ever say in English but in fact it is just a roundabout way of saying "say". 듣다 -> 들리다 -> 들려주다 - quite the transformation. So Korean.
I recently came across the word 눈싸음 and I was amused how it had two totally different meanings (snowball fight and staring contest) even though it makes sense since 눈 means both "snow" and "eye".
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tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4699 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 77 of 120 25 February 2014 at 9:49pm | IP Logged |
I'm still traipsing through TTMIK lessons a bit, depending on when I have some time
during work to listen to it. I need to use more native materials and active situations
for my Korean. We'll see how it works out. I will soon be done with my Hebrew focus, so
Korean should take centre stage again soon - only to be cut out by my Romania project :)
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The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5641 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean
| Message 78 of 120 25 February 2014 at 10:27pm | IP Logged |
I have learned a lot of figure skating related terms since I have intensively read quite
a few articles on Korean sites about Kim Yuna being robbed at the Olympics. The
expression I'll probably remember forever is 엉덩방아를 찧다, which means to fall down on
one's ass.
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druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4860 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian
| Message 79 of 120 25 February 2014 at 11:12pm | IP Logged |
I've been mining some vocab from articles, reports and podcasts lately. Sometimes I'm surprised to come across really concrete I didn't know yet, like 천둥번개 (thunder and lightning). Mostly it's abstract concepts and verbs I'm having problems with.
A very useful word I came across in two podcasts is 호감:
호감이 가다 - become fond of; be likeable
호감을 주다 - make a good impression
호감을 갖다 - have a good feeling (toward)
호감을 사다 - win a person's favor/goodwill
Right now I'm wondering about how to improve my speaking skills. Any ideas? I'm finding it very complicated with Korean. I always fall back on the same constructions. Maybe I really have to drill grammar or something...
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tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4699 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 80 of 120 25 February 2014 at 11:18pm | IP Logged |
I think speaking practice is very dependent on how much you use the language in natural
settings and conversations. I do not speak languages I have never had occasion to use -
but the ones I have spoken lots I am comfortable speaking in. And the first 30 times are
shit.
Just so you know.
And no, I can't speak Korean and it doesn't count :P
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