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| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4763 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 25 of 60 28 April 2014 at 4:42pm | IP Logged |
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It's nice to see another success story with FSI. How do you use it? Just with the
audio, or audio + the text? I was using FSI a lot last summer, got through Unit 6, and then put it aside for a while. Last week I started working on Unit 7, which is very long and more difficult than previous lessons. Except the lesson with all the numbers... that was a real pain in the tongue. Now that I'm finishing with Assimil, I might spend more time with FSI. I agree with you that Le Petit Nicolas is difficult from time to time. He occasionally uses unusual idioms that even confuse native speakers, judging from discussions on French forums I have found while looking for help with some sentences. But it is still really easy to follow what's going on, and the stories are amusing enough that I consider them "light" reading. Since you use a lot of native material, are you signing up for a Super Challenge? 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| evilado Diglot Groupie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3860 days ago 64 posts - 82 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Mandarin | Message 26 of 60 28 April 2014 at 7:59pm | IP Logged |
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Unless I'm really struggling with it(5 or 6 times to date), I do audio-only, mostly on a
walk to go get lunch, doing housework, or exercising. Even though the topics are beyond boring, I do like how they pick apart the dialogue and practice swapping minimal pairs of grammar and pronunciation. Even straight repetition of things I understand 100% spotlights pronunciation problems. I wasn't really familiar with the Super Challenge, but after reading up a bit, I'm a big chicken and I usually don't have any motivational problems with Spanish, the only language I'd consider doing for the Super. Maybe if there's something similar in the fall. Good luck. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| evilado Diglot Groupie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3860 days ago 64 posts - 82 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Mandarin | Message 27 of 60 28 April 2014 at 8:30pm | IP Logged |
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Wow, after reading a bit, the Super Challenge does seem doable. 5000 pages, 150 hours of
movies/tv/podcasts over 20 months. I'll do some more reading from the last super, but that seems like just enough to keep me on track without crowding out my non-super languages. Your Super Challenge evangelism might have just gotten another convert. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| evilado Diglot Groupie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3860 days ago 64 posts - 82 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Mandarin | Message 28 of 60 30 April 2014 at 3:32pm | IP Logged |
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So I'm in, Full Super for Spanish and a half for French. I'm set for material in Spanish,
but I might end up using French to catch up on the classics, whether in translation or not. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| evilado Diglot Groupie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3860 days ago 64 posts - 82 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Mandarin | Message 29 of 60 05 May 2014 at 9:28pm | IP Logged |
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First week of the Super Challenge, read first 50 pages of Breve Historia de la Revolucion Francesa, notably hardly than the other titles in the series, though it might just be a bunch vocabulary areas that I've been missing. Finished Jorge, quite entertaining, currently checking out a couple other Malena Pichot series, Cualca is entertaining but too short. Really enjoying Diana Uribe's History of France. I recall starting this a long time ago and having a bit of trouble, but it's really entertaining now: shes's got a lot of personality and a passion for history. Plus it's 40 45-minute episodes just for France, and she's got a series on lots of other countries. Mandarin Just about done with Assimil, 101 of 105. I might go back through the whole thing in an active wave after I get back from France, thinking about starting FSI then, too. French FSI 9.7, boy is this rough. The idea is object pronoun order, but add in passe compose, on, en/y/les/le/la/leur/lui, negation, question word order, and liasons, and I just don't have time to sort it all out in time. I'll just have to re-do this a couple times and then come back to it periodically. Re-reading Le Petit Prince, ordered my bilingual Madame Bovary, trying to finish FSI unit 12 in three weeks. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| evilado Diglot Groupie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3860 days ago 64 posts - 82 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Mandarin | Message 30 of 60 14 May 2014 at 10:38pm | IP Logged |
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Spanish Loving the Super Challenge on this, plowing through Diana Uribe's History
of France, got about 100 pages of French History and 50 pages of the Llosa read this week. Probably gonna back off on the Spanish a bit for the next couple weeks. Mandarin On hold until I get back from France in June. Keeping my memrise stuff watered(which is always more of a pain than I expect). Tried finishing off Assimil, but wasn't 100% comfortable with the last couple lessons to move on. French FSI 10.3, got a lot more out of Le Petit Prince this time. Read Le Petit Nicolas, started Harry Potter et la chambre des secrets, a book I started in Spanish and put down for an Isabel Allenda YA book. Casting a wider net for podcasts, probably spent too long comparing everything back to Spanish podcasts. Watched several Buffy episodes, season 2 is almost done. Finished Objectif Lune, Started On a marche su la lune. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| evilado Diglot Groupie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3860 days ago 64 posts - 82 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Mandarin | Message 31 of 60 28 May 2014 at 12:17am | IP Logged |
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Spanish Almost entirely on hold since my last update, listened to some favorite
podcasts, read blogs and articles, keeping my memrise stuff from piling up. Can't wait to get back into the groove of speaking, I have a feeling it's going to be a bit rustier than I remembered. Mandarin Same as before, but strongly considering signing up for italki's world cup challenge or whatever for Mandarin, 25 hours of tutoring in 2 months. It's exactly the kind of commitment that would keep me motivated and learning, but pricey any way you look at it. Other downside, it starts on the 1st and I won't be able to take any lessons until at least the 7th. French Leaving for Paris on Thursday night, not stressing out too much about cramming every last bit of French into my brain before I go. As a tourist, I think I'll be more than fine in getting around and understanding everything, I'd rate myself at a B1, maybe high B1, but we'll see when I get back. It's been a fun experience getting here and I believe I've gotten over the beginner/non-native materials hump. Finished duolingo's skill tree, currently on FSI 11.4 with lots of repeats, got one last session with a tutor tomorrow morning to work on some tourist vocabulary and phrases that I've always found too boring to study. Podcasts have become markedly easier, thanks to the Super Challenge. About 65% done with Harry Potter 2, might finish it on the flight back. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| evilado Diglot Groupie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3860 days ago 64 posts - 82 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Mandarin | Message 32 of 60 10 June 2014 at 4:39pm | IP Logged |
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I'm back from a week in Paris, and while I can say that my French was mostly
unnecessary(just about everyone in the service industry had a much better command of English than my French), I had a great time and feel like the conversations and observations I did have were greatly enhanced by what French I did know. Especially in restaurants, reading the menu and staying in French throughout the meal was convenient. I also spent a fair amount of time watching French television back at the hotel(my mother is not much of a night owl), and I didn't have many problems understanding the news or sports commentary. I have a ton a memrise to catch up on and haven't updated my Super Challenge twitter feed much at all, but with the jet lag and a nasty cold I caught on the way back, it's been a little difficult to get back into a solid routine. Otherwise, I'm back with a renewed enthusiasm for French(which was waning a bit before the trip, to be honest), and ready for some new challenges and materials. Spanish Finished the Mario Vargas Llosa book, quite proud of myself there. I really enjoyed his writing and it was particularly valuable when viewing Gauguin's works in the Musee d'Orsay. I've never quite understood the popularity of Spanish language historical fiction, but both Gauguin and his grandmother Flora Tristán feel like real human beings to me, rather than rarefied historical figures. I´ll definitely read more Llosa in the future, but I think I´ll tackle a few shorter works by other authors first. Diana Uribe´s series on French history has been a fascinating podcast that I´m nearly finished with. And I ended up speaking a little Spanish in Paris, which is always a rewarding experience with fellow tourists. Mandarin Now that my French vacation is complete, I think it´s finally time to seriously take up mandarin. I haven´t decided on my method or path forward yet, but it will involve something like chinesepod, lots of TDramas, and probably FSI Chinese. French Finished Harry Potter 2, started Harry potter 3. Watched Truffaut´s La Peau Douce, listened to dozens of podcasts, plan on watching lots of Buffy and reading progressively more advanced works. Ideally I´d continue with FSI, but I´m not sure I have the motivation. It´s too hot to walk to lunch, so I´ll have to find another block of time to incorporate it into my routine. On the plus side, my italki tutor gave me plenty of book recommendations for my level. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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