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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6583 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 41 of 58 06 June 2015 at 8:26pm | IP Logged | ||
I wasn't comparing 500 hours of reading with 100 hours of SRS. I just meant that the average efficiency per hour depends on how many hours you do. It's similar to how as a beginner you can learn a lot in a short time. With SRS, eventually there will be leeches and old cards you don't like anymore and boring cards you feel bad about deleting and easy cards that you want to keep anyway. In reading the difficulties are just more immediately obvious, unless you read with like 98% comprehension. Reading becomes more fun with time, SRS/Memrise get less fun with time and are the most enjoyable when you first start them. Furthermore, SRS'ing for that many hours is generally not very sustainable anyway. And it gets less sustainable if the cards aren't reinforced by input. Edited by Serpent on 06 June 2015 at 8:38pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| rtickner Diglot Groupie AustraliaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3504 days ago 61 posts - 95 votes Speaks: English*, GermanB2 Studies: French, Spanish | Message 42 of 58 07 June 2015 at 12:13am | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks for the clarification, I agree with your long term approach and other general
comments. I should have made it more clear that I was talking about short term gains. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| 1e4e6 Octoglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4276 days ago 1013 posts - 1588 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, Dutch, Swedish, Italian Studies: German, Danish, Russian, Catalan | Message 43 of 58 07 June 2015 at 7:57am | IP Logged | ||
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Very rarely do I explicitly learn vocabulary, but I have books that have grouped
vocabulary based on topic, like Berlitz: Spanish Vocabulary Handbook. Instead of just random vocabulary, it is in groups for each page, for example "Accidents and Emergencies", "Poverty and Social Services", "Cooking & Eating", etc. with vocabulary that often is seen with some frequency but not enough for it to stick to use accurately and quickly either in writing or spontaneously in conversation. I find that this tpe of resource is good for any level, from A1 to C2, because some of the vocabulary if wished can be omitted at lower levels, and the more detailed ones learnt at C levels. Unfortunately it is in English, but that is what is available in Anglophone bookstores. For example, there is an entry in one of the sectiones for "Science" of "sandstone: la piedra arenisca". I am not sure if I have ever seen any word in either language nor ever used it, but if I had to I would recognise it and now I remember it enough to use it if I need it. And given that the book is only 248 pages long and serves as close to my only real source for explicit vocabulary learning in this language, if I did this for every other target language, it would not take me very much time. The time I spent on grammar was probably at least 50 times longer than the time that I spent on explicit vocabulary learning. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 4995 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 44 of 58 07 June 2015 at 8:39am | IP Logged | ||
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I've been using sandstones in my favourite computer game to mend some of my weapons for years :-D So, I've been asking about sandstone loads, borowing sandstones, donating sandstones quite a lot. But, now that I think of it, I remember using the word in Czech as well, in the geology classes and sometimes in museums. A nice example of totally different needs of each learner.
Your books sounds interesting 1e4e6, approximately how many words are there? I have got some similar resources but Berlitz might be good and available for other languages than Spanish as well. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| 1e4e6 Octoglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4276 days ago 1013 posts - 1588 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, Dutch, Swedish, Italian Studies: German, Danish, Russian, Catalan | Message 45 of 58 07 June 2015 at 8:55pm | IP Logged | ||
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I used to play WoW for a few years when I was a teenager. I encountered quite a lot of
fauna and stuff, but I am not sure about sandstones. I know that there is hearthstone (I am not sure what the hell this really is in terms of biology up to now). The book has around 40-50 vocabulary words per page, with a few sample sentences using the important words at the bottom. I have a weird method, where I try to master the grammar explicitly over and over until I can reproduce it as fast as I can in any situation, but neglect explicit vocabulary except for books like this one. I bought this one in a bookstore, so I am not sure if there are for other languages. The book is available to look inside in Amazon.co.uk: Berlitz: Spanish Vocabulary Handbook In terms of learning vocabulary in other ways, I usually just read things like the news and magazines like Página12. One thing that I like to do is that when I encounter a new word, I figure out its meaning from context without using dictionary and use it in writing myself. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| patrickwilken Senior Member Germany radiant-flux.net Joined 4519 days ago 1546 posts - 3200 votes Studies: German | Message 46 of 58 07 June 2015 at 9:09pm | IP Logged | ||
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BTW: Unless this is a new use of the word, it's "sandstone" not "sandstones". There is no plural form, just like with basalt or granite or marble (the stone not the game).
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| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 4995 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 47 of 58 07 June 2015 at 9:11pm | IP Logged | ||
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True, thanks. My apologies.
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 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6689 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 48 of 58 08 June 2015 at 7:43am | IP Logged | ||
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Actually sandstone has a plural, which is used when you refer to different kinds of sandstone (quote Wikipedia: "Some sandstones are resistant to weathering, yet are easy to work."). But if you already know the word sandstone you can easily add the fact that there is this special use of the plural when you see it in a concrete text. Which illustrates that you don't need to learn everything at once about the words you add to your vocabulary. The important thing is to get the word nailed, and then you can elaborate on its meaning(s) and uses later.
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