noriyuki_nomura Bilingual Octoglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 5326 days ago 304 posts - 465 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin*, Japanese, FrenchC2, GermanC2, ItalianC1, SpanishB2, DutchB1 Studies: TurkishA1, Korean
| Message 161 of 221 08 December 2010 at 8:55pm | IP Logged |
I wholeheartedly agree with this point.
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For language lessons, I prefer to watch videos made by native speakers or people who have studied a language for many years, rather than people teaching stuff they learned from a textbook yesterday. |
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languagenerd09 Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom youtube.com/user/Lan Joined 5086 days ago 174 posts - 267 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Mandarin, Japanese, Thai
| Message 162 of 221 16 December 2010 at 4:07am | IP Logged |
I have simply been inspired by Moses in language learning this year and I am very very thankful for that.
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bluecollar Groupie United States Joined 6140 days ago 43 posts - 48 votes
| Message 163 of 221 08 April 2011 at 6:08pm | IP Logged |
His enthusiasm for languages is inspiring but most of his languages are useless though.We all can learn how to pronounce a lot of languages,write a few sentences,use googletranslate to translate them and make videos of ourselves "speaking" countless languages.Moses is a nice guy but the truth remains his language learning approach is what we should avoid: a mile wide and an inch deep.
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Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6568 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German
| Message 164 of 221 08 April 2011 at 9:26pm | IP Logged |
bluecollar wrote:
His enthusiasm for languages is inspiring but most of his languages are useless though.We all
can learn how to pronounce a lot of languages,write a few sentences,use googletranslate to translate them and
make videos of ourselves "speaking" countless languages.Moses is a nice guy but the truth remains his language
learning approach is what we should avoid: a mile wide and an inch deep. |
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Very true, as long as by "we" you mean "people with the same priorities as me". A mile wide and an inch deep is a
helluvalot of dirt.
EDIT: And by "useless" you mean "of no use for the things I want to do with my languages".
Edited by Ari on 08 April 2011 at 9:27pm
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blindside70 Newbie United States polymathisthegoal.co Joined 5747 days ago 24 posts - 31 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Polish, German, French
| Message 165 of 221 09 April 2011 at 4:57pm | IP Logged |
I think you got it right Ari. It's all about your goals. Moses can have a basic conversation in a large majority of his languages, but then he probably can't talk politics or read novels in great many of them.
Truth is though he probably doesn't talk much politics or read many novels in English either.
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ChiaBrain Bilingual Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5794 days ago 402 posts - 512 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish* Studies: Portuguese, Italian, French Studies: German
| Message 166 of 221 10 April 2011 at 9:23am | IP Logged |
There's a lot to be said for breadth of study.
Why should I waste so much time becoming natively fluent in just one extra language when
I can spend that time sampling a wide variety of them and learn about the nature of
language itself?!?!?
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hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5116 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe
| Message 167 of 221 10 April 2011 at 5:49pm | IP Logged |
ChiaBrain wrote:
There's a lot to be said for breadth of study.
Why should I waste so much time becoming natively fluent in just one extra language when
I can spend that time sampling a wide variety of them and learn about the nature of
language itself?!?!?
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My goal (outside of my job's linguistic requirements) is to become fluent enough in a language that I can have a meaningful conversation with a variety of people about a variety of topics. I also want to be able to easily read good literature in the language.
But I'm discovering that occasional excursions into other languages are healthy, if nothing else than for a break in monotony. I don't have to become fluent in everything I'm exposed to.
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blindside70 Newbie United States polymathisthegoal.co Joined 5747 days ago 24 posts - 31 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Polish, German, French
| Message 168 of 221 10 April 2011 at 6:20pm | IP Logged |
hrhenry wrote:
My goal (outside of my job's linguistic requirements) is to become fluent enough in a language that I can have a meaningful conversation with a variety of people about a variety of topics. I also want to be able to easily read good literature in the language.
But I'm discovering that occasional excursions into other languages are healthy, if nothing else than for a break in monotony. I don't have to become fluent in everything I'm exposed to.
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Agreed. I have my main goals, but I find myself interested in other languages at other times for other reasons. The Filipinos that sit around me at work have made me interested in Tagalog. I don't plan to work to get fluent in that particular language, but I did buy the Teach Yourself book to be able to play with it.
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