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| Poppy Diglot Newbie United States Joined 5548 days ago 12 posts - 13 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 33 of 213 04 September 2009 at 3:18pm | IP Logged |
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Ah! I feel so bad >__< , I can barely scrape by 5 kanji per day. Maybe i'm focusing too much on stroke order...
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| cathrynm Senior Member United States junglevision.co Joined 6110 days ago 910 posts - 1232 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Finnish | Message 34 of 213 04 September 2009 at 7:28pm | IP Logged |
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I cannot learn a Kanji in a day, no matter what I do. My latest plan is, is 100/day, every day for a week. And then next week I go to the next 100. For Kanji that are completely new to me I add a few words from Wakan to a word list and I read that over a few times. I don't have super great retention of all of the new Kanji, though the ones I already know I learn better,and I am able to spot ones that I've practiced but haven't really learned when I'm reading and that can make them a bit more solid.
I prompt myself with the readings and the meanings, and then I try to draw them from memory. I use a book called KANJI ABC, which was recommended to me. This book orders Kanji roughly by radicals. When a new radical pops up I look up the stroke order at... www.yamasa.cc I'm in my second month of working this way. My plan is to go through the 2000 or so in Japanese and then restart at the beginning and do it all again. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Meadowmeal Pentaglot Groupie Netherlands Joined 5696 days ago 43 posts - 57 votes Speaks: Dutch*, French, English, German, Polish Studies: Romanian | Message 35 of 213 04 September 2009 at 11:13pm | IP Logged |
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I try to learn about 20 words a day (using Vokker to keep count) so that after two years (one and a half year from now) I'll know about 7000 and be able to read a novel in Polish. At least, it seems that to read comfortably that's about the amount of vocabulary one needs. It seems a realistic and motivating goal.
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| cymro Triglot Groupie Wales Joined 6439 days ago 76 posts - 98 votes Speaks: English*, Welsh, French Studies: Italian, Spanish, Latin, Ancient Greek | Message 36 of 213 05 September 2009 at 2:55pm | IP Logged |
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I ran a test on myself a while ago. I tested what proportion of the words in a dictionary I knew by choosing some pages at random and examining them. This was for Welsh a language a took classes to learn I discovered I had learned about 150 words a day. This was passively by going to class, using the language in a Welsh speaking organisation, socialising in the language and above all reading Harry Potter bilingually.
I learned a hundred new words in Spanish yesterday. My target was 150 but I was out most of the day so I didn't have the time. I have done 250 before now and I have a revision target of 250 words a day for this week. I use jmemorize and some electronic sources. 250 new words a day is possible but tiring. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6688 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 37 of 213 05 September 2009 at 6:43pm | IP Logged |
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Not to discourage anybody, but take a small dictionary with about 10-15000 words and try to look up every unknown word from some ordinary text in a language you don't already know too well. How many did you find? My own experience with a Greek scientific magazine is maybe half the words I didn't know weren't included in the dictionary either - so apparently even 10-15000 words isn't enough. And here I'm not talking about specific scientific terms, because they often are international and therefore not among those I had to look up. So the level of daily word intake attained by Cymro is not only possible, but it really is what you MUST aim for if you want to learn a language within a reasonable time (but of course this will be more difficult if it isn't closely related to something you already know). Good luck! Edited by Iversen on 05 September 2009 at 6:51pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 6127 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian | Message 38 of 213 05 September 2009 at 9:19pm | IP Logged |
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Lately, I have been trying to do at least 4 kanji a day, but perhaps as many as 10. In this way, I learn anywhere between 28 and 70 kanji in a given week. This is quite satisfying, as my classmates enrolled in Japanese classes at my high school only learn around 100 kanji per year. :)
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| Levi Pentaglot Senior Member United States Joined 5552 days ago 2268 posts - 3328 votes Speaks: English*, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish Studies: Russian, Dutch, Portuguese, Mandarin, Japanese, Italian | Message 39 of 213 06 September 2009 at 12:01am | IP Logged |
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My copy of the Heisig book just arrived in the mail seven hours ago, and already I've
memorized the first 100 kanji. I have to say I really like this method! 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Choscura Diglot Groupie United States Joined 5533 days ago 61 posts - 82 votes Speaks: English*, Thai | Message 40 of 213 18 September 2009 at 12:09pm | IP Logged |
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I did between 20 and 80 a day when I was first learning Thai, but it takes up so much time to learn this way and you either have to have a native speaker who will also use that time with you (either to record tapes for you or to actually be there and speak to you- in a way that you can understand and in a structure that you can learn efficiently) or you have to use an exact phonetic system that you are very fluent in- for example, if you wanted to learn English this way, you'd have to write it in some phonetic alphabet, not in English, if you wanted to be able to speak properly.
Now, for German, I learn maybe 5 words a day when I don't study, just from interacting with native speakers here. Usually very odd words, but things I do need to know. When I do study, it's a bit faster than Thai, probably at least 30 words a day? But I'm just starting to really study it. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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