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| Cabaire Senior Member Germany Joined 5602 days ago 725 posts - 1352 votes  | Message 25 of 51 12 July 2011 at 10:15pm | IP Logged | ||
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I would say, in зима морозная the adjective is predicative: The winter is frosty, but in морозная зима it is used attributively: the frosty winter. Edited by Cabaire on 12 July 2011 at 10:16pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Radu-1987 Diglot Groupie RomaniaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4992 days ago 42 posts - 52 votes Speaks: Japanese*, English Studies: Russian | Message 26 of 51 13 July 2011 at 2:42pm | IP Logged | ||
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Cheers for that. However, I found another example which I am not sure whether the rule you mentioned above are applicable?
=================== Цветёт земля чудесная, и ей мы говорим, что Родину Советскую за всё благодарим. Мы сильные, здоровье, нам всех привольней жить, идём мы в школы новые учиться и дружить. И станут нам известными все горы и моря, мы школьники советские с начала сентября. =================== 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Mrs. Dalloway Triglot Groupie Italy Joined 4972 days ago 70 posts - 95 votes Speaks: Italian*, EnglishC2, Russian Studies: GermanA2, French, Danish | Message 27 of 51 13 July 2011 at 3:11pm | IP Logged | ||
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I wanted to write something, but then thought I'd live it to the native speakers.
I feel the right to enjoy the discussion, now :) The position of the adjective in Russian is not fixed, it can be put before as well as after the noun to which is referred. The only thing is: if the whole sentence is "школы новые", that will be translated as "Schools are new" (Even if it should be written as "школы - новые") But here we have a sentence where школы новые is only a part of the speech, in this case, the place to which we are going "идём мы в школы новые", so here новые is an attribute, as Cabaire said. Russian language leaves a lot of freedom as for the order of the words in a sentence, and, expecially in riddles or songs, they're much more mixed than during a speech, to keep the rhytm and make it sound beautiful. That happens more often in Russian than any of the languages I know, actually. Edited by Mrs. Dalloway on 13 July 2011 at 3:13pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Radu-1987 Diglot Groupie RomaniaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4992 days ago 42 posts - 52 votes Speaks: Japanese*, English Studies: Russian | Message 28 of 51 04 September 2011 at 2:28pm | IP Logged | ||
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Another question related to instrumental case.
What is the difference between those two sentences below and why does latter use instrumental and former not? - Древние славяне были язычники. - В древности славяне были язычниками. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5059 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 29 of 51 04 September 2011 at 3:17pm | IP Logged | ||
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Mrs.Dalloway is absolutely right.(Школы новые is written without a hyphen. A hyphen is
put only between two nouns, numbers or infinitives or any mixture of them: Семь - нечётное число Seven is an odd number). In oral speech the relationship between words is expressed by intonation. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5059 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 30 of 51 04 September 2011 at 3:19pm | IP Logged | ||
No difference. Both are correct. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Radu-1987 Diglot Groupie RomaniaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4992 days ago 42 posts - 52 votes Speaks: Japanese*, English Studies: Russian | Message 31 of 51 04 September 2011 at 4:36pm | IP Logged | ||
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Can reverse of those also be correct, shown as below?
- Древние славяне были язычниками. - В древности славяне были язычники. Edited by Radu-1987 on 04 September 2011 at 4:38pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5059 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 32 of 51 04 September 2011 at 5:09pm | IP Logged | ||
Да. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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