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 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6911 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes  Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 41 of 48 01 November 2011 at 8:07pm | IP Logged | |||||
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In the recently published book "Ljust och fräscht" (~"Bright and fresh"), the authors (comedians Fredrik Lindström and Henrik Schyffert) draw attention to Swedish interior design, including colour tables with shades of white such as Stockholm white, tofu white, dandruff, sneaker, basin, extension cord...
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| Marc Frisch Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6667 days ago 1001 posts - 1169 votes Speaks: German*, French, English, Spanish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Persian, Tamil | Message 42 of 48 02 November 2011 at 9:46pm | IP Logged | |||||
I know that Arabic took this word directly from Portuguese and that Turkish loaned it from Arabic. Because of the geographical proximity, I think it's very likely that it spread from Turkish to Greek, Albanian, and Georgian (and probably some other languages as well). By the way, this thread is awesome! Edited by Marc Frisch on 02 November 2011 at 9:47pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Marc Frisch Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6667 days ago 1001 posts - 1169 votes Speaks: German*, French, English, Spanish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Persian, Tamil | Message 43 of 48 02 November 2011 at 9:50pm | IP Logged | |||||
This is so incredible: I'm studying Tamil right now and it's so interesting to see how a Tamil (or Dravidian) word has travelled through virtually all the languages I'm interested in! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| strikingstar Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 5175 days ago 292 posts - 444 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin*, Cantonese, Swahili Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written) | Message 44 of 48 03 November 2011 at 7:57pm | IP Logged | |||||
That makes more sense. Afterall most of the countries between Portugal and the Caucusus did not adopt a variation of "Portokalli" as the name for the fruit. I assume Portuguese vessels stopped somewhere along the Persian Gulf and the Arabian Sea on the way back to Europe and introduced the oranges to the Arabs. The orange then spread towards Turkey and Eastern Europe from there. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Rutabaga Bilingual Pentaglot Newbie Romania Joined 4929 days ago 27 posts - 46 votes Speaks: English*, Slovenian*, French, German, Russian Studies: Portuguese, Uzbek | Message 45 of 48 05 November 2011 at 11:19am | IP Logged | |||||
You know, I'm not entirely sure how many true color words there are. I was never able to get a definitive answer. According to my language book, older speakers of the language out in the village refer to things as being only dark and light (ie. black and white, which are finman and jeeman). However, there seems to be a true word for red: bilenman. I think that follows the pattern, right? There are words to describe other colors, but they're all along the lines of 'the color of [object]'. For example, yellow is neremuguman, where neremugu is the yellow powder of the plant nere, and green is binkeneman, where bin means grass and kene means healthy or alive. I tried to find out more about this when I was learning the colours, but found that most people just referred to the colors in French. In fact, a whole discussion ensued when my friend and I tried to find out the words for pink and orange. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| zecchino1991 Senior Member United States facebook.com/amyybur Joined 5260 days ago 778 posts - 885 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Modern Hebrew, Russian, Arabic (Written), Romanian, Icelandic, Georgian | Message 46 of 48 09 January 2012 at 10:42pm | IP Logged | |||||
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In Hebrew it's "tapuz" for the fruit and "katom" for the color. I don't know the origin of the color word, though.
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| kyknos Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5498 days ago 103 posts - 140 votes Speaks: Slovak, Czech*, English Studies: German, Spanish | Message 47 of 48 09 January 2012 at 11:04pm | IP Logged | |||||
No, in Czech the color is "oranžová", the fruit is indeed "pomeranč" 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Monox D. I-Fly Senior Member Indonesia monoxdifly.iopc.us Joined 5137 days ago 762 posts - 664 votes Speaks: Indonesian* | Message 48 of 48 22 December 2015 at 6:02pm | IP Logged | |||||
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In Indonesia, the color orange is either "oranye" for the loan word or "jingga" for the native word while the fruit orange is "jeruk".
On the other hand, the Indonesian for "cacao" and "brown" are both "cokelat" leading to a riddle changes the answer if translated to English. English: What fruit has the same name as its color? Orange. Indonesia: Buah apa yang namanya sama dengan warnanya? (What fruit has the same name as its color?) Cokelat (Cacao/Brown). 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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