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| croatia88888 Newbie CroatiaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4013 days ago 14 posts - 17 votes Speaks: English | Message 1 of 4 25 March 2014 at 7:25pm | IP Logged | ||
hey there peps :D can you explain me what to do here
I only know ARE - goes to ATO, IRE to ITO and ERE to UTO but what else do I need to know and on the first picture on top it asks to use essere or avere but it seems to me that avere goes nowhere and down there whats arsi and irsi and do I put everywhere where are is ato, ere uto and ire ito or do I have to remember every word for exaple ho hai ha... faccio, fai, fa... or what cause as you see i wrote fatto at fare and messo for mettere and preso for prendere, why isnt it messuto, prenduto or something like that... 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6582 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 2 of 4 25 March 2014 at 9:09pm | IP Logged | ||
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There are definitely some examples with avere there :) Note that it's always used with transitive verbs, for example. And with avere itself.
-arsi/-irsi are reflective verbs, like those with -self in English or se in Croatian. -ato/-uto/-ito work for most verbs, but some are exceptions like you mentioned. In one of the exercises you've inserted just the participles without the auxliary verb (essere/avere). Doesn't your textbook explain anything? :/ 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| croatia88888 Newbie CroatiaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4013 days ago 14 posts - 17 votes Speaks: English | Message 3 of 4 25 March 2014 at 9:40pm | IP Logged | ||
I got no book, I finished three years of one job/course of highschool and now I go 2 more years free for learning some other job/course (1 year just to pass tests of the difference in subjects and the next year is a regular school year) So I got no book since I don't go every day to school this year so for the preso, fatto, letto.. and other similar words how do I know what to write I didn't know preso, letto and stuff I just found it on the internet I have no Idea why is it that I write them and would it be the same if there was loro in preso and not io and such for other words too... 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6582 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 4 of 4 25 March 2014 at 10:16pm | IP Logged | ||
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Well, you definitely need a proper grammar book that explains stuff. Or look for some explanations online. http://italian.about.com seems good.
There aren't too many exceptions, so just learn them and it'll be easier. Or if you have time, just do exercises, watch TV and read and you'll pick up the exceptions. I've never learned them formally, I just watch a lot of football :) The auxiliary verb changes according to the person, so it will be loro hanno preso, tu sei andata etc. Look around too! Read about the various techniques, consider especially SRS, shadowing and scriptorium. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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