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| Languagelover1 Groupie United Kingdom Joined 6414 days ago 63 posts - 63 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 25 of 38 19 January 2008 at 2:33am | IP Logged | ||
Dear Prof. Arguelles This is wonderful news. Thank you for your prompt reply. Stephen Picksley Edited by Languagelover1 on 19 January 2008 at 2:34am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ProfArguelles Moderator United States foreignlanguageexper Joined 7241 days ago 609 posts - 2102 votes | Message 26 of 38 20 January 2008 at 7:26pm | IP Logged | ||
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I am very happy to hear that someone is already using the Korean Newspaper Reader, and I do hope it will be of assistance to you in improving your Korean. As noted in the introduction, the ambitious official goal of the book is to take you from ILR level 2 to ILR level 3/3+. There are many ways that you can use such a text, and since you must already be comparatively advanced to be using the book in the first place, I encourage you to find your own path. What you are doing is fine if it suits your learning style, but I wonder if the audio has been released yet—I have not received my copies yet, and I do regard them as an integral part of the method, but you do not mention them. Since you ask for pointers, however, I will say that I would use this book differently:
1. First and foremost, hoping and presuming that the audio is of good quality, I would shadow it as my introduction to the material, paying particular attention to the North Korean texts, which are supposed to be read by a Pyongyang native and which will thus have a different lilt from what you have used before. 2. I would study the grammatical introduction, paying particular attention to Tables II and III on pages xiv-xxv. 3. I would read the article and the vocabulary list simultaneously, physically using a finger of my right hand to follow the text and a finger of my left hand to follow the sequential vocabulary. 4. I would then read the translation to make sure I was not misunderstanding anything. 5. I would then repeat step 3 several times until I felt reasonably comfortable with my understanding without the vocabulary. 6. I would work through several pages of text in this way before I copied by hand, and through a good many pages before I attempted any kind of translation. On another note, referring back to one of the last comments by Mr. Iversen, I think you may have misunderstood how my dictionary came out: the Korean column was completely removed, and so the format is English / French / Spanish / German. If you could get a copy, I would hope that you would find it both interesting and useful. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| mumusik Newbie Korea, South Joined 6291 days ago 38 posts - 38 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean | Message 27 of 38 21 January 2008 at 2:47am | IP Logged | ||
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교수님,
thanks for the quick reply. Thanks for that advice. Unfortunately, there is no audio... If you hear that they are released, please mention it and I will see if it's possible to get a set sent here seeing as I have already bought the book... Your last point is interesting, I'll try to get a good feel for several articles before translating and writing. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ChristopherB Triglot Senior Member New Zealand Joined 6301 days ago 851 posts - 1074 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English*, German, French | Message 28 of 38 28 February 2008 at 2:38pm | IP Logged | ||
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Professor,
I have some heartening news! After e-mailing the Maliks store, your English French Spanish German Dictionary is indeed in stock. So I placed an order for it. Now, despite the typical kinds of ludicrous shipping costs ($25 in this case) to be expected for books - especially to a far-out little country like New Zealand - my order arrived just now and within three days. Am I a happy chappy? Why yes. Here is a pic, just for excitement's sake: 
To any of those who would like a copy, and can afford the costs ($43 including shipping outside Lebanon; the book itself is only $18), I heartily recommend you do so, as the shipping speed was phenomenal. I will be sure to make great use of this book, especially when I take up Spanish in the very near future. I do find it terribly disappointing that such a work is not nearly as accessible as it should be. Professor, you say that seven years were spent compiling this dictionary; is it not at all possible to have it republished or made more accessible? There is no reason why such a work could not find its way into a Borders store or a University library. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ProfArguelles Moderator United States foreignlanguageexper Joined 7241 days ago 609 posts - 2102 votes | Message 29 of 38 02 March 2008 at 7:06pm | IP Logged | ||
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Mr. Button,
Thank you so very much for providing proof that the publication of my dictionary in some form was not a mere figment of my fevered imagination. You may enjoy looking at a fascinating work, Chasing the Sun: Dictionary Makers and the Dictionaries they Made by Jonathan Green. His basic conclusion is that we are all insane. I must say that wresting with a project that is so much larger than oneself does make one feel this way to the point that at times one is just no longer sure… At any rate, thank you so much for your appreciative words. I do hope your purchase will be of actual use to you as you tread the path of the polyglot. It was fully intended to be so, as every time you look up a word in one language, you will necessarily see it in the others as well, feeding you that comparative information initially and then reinforcing it each time. Of course I concur, it would be wonderful if it could be more easily and generally accessible… 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Makrasiroutioun Quadrilingual Heptaglot Senior Member Canada infowars.com Joined 6091 days ago 210 posts - 236 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Armenian*, Romanian*, Latin, German, Italian Studies: Dutch, Swedish, Turkish, Japanese, Russian, Arabic (Written) | Message 30 of 38 16 April 2008 at 9:52pm | IP Logged | ||
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Professor, if you may forgive my insolence, but my curiosity is gnawing at me... what is the status on your "Principles of Polyglottery" book? I kept on thinking about it the other day when I was rereading Frederick Bodmer's "Loom of Language".
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| tricoteuse Pentaglot Senior Member Norway littlang.blogspot.co Joined 6663 days ago 745 posts - 845 votes Speaks: Swedish*, Norwegian, EnglishC1, Russian, French Studies: Ukrainian, Bulgarian | Message 32 of 38 17 April 2008 at 3:05pm | IP Logged | ||
I consider myself one of those individuals (I'm on my fourth), mostly thanks to reading your posts and realizing that laziness and endless procrastination are the only things holding me back. I have only recently gotten my life into a steady routine though (moving to a new country and so on) and gotten truly back on track with my language studies, and thus returned to this forum. Here I read a lot of things, but I only comment when I think I have something to say, and in your threads I have not really felt that there was much I could or ought to say. I consider myself too young, for some reason. However, I read your post on ideal systematic training in polyglottery and it sounded very interesting. I have no limits to how much work I can put into something when forced (by something exterior or by pride and jealousy) and if such an academy existed, I would do what I could to get in to it. I also wanted to add that I too wait for that book of yours! Best regards, Rebecka 1 person has voted this message useful |
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