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| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5000 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes  Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 9 of 21 12 March 2014 at 9:05pm | IP Logged | |||||
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A good hole finding exercise is to take a notebook with you and write down a diary, your
thoughs and so on during the day. Try to express yourself freely. And you should see quite easily what you are missing. And, as you've got the notebook where you are writing, you can easly write down what to look up at the nearest opportunity so that you don't forget to do it later and you cover the gap. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 4073 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German | Message 10 of 21 12 March 2014 at 10:06pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Here is another related issue I am facing. Since having had started to pay more
attention to writing forum posts (english), I am discovering I am having to had edit sentences several times to get the English right (did I get this sentence right?). This is fine for writing, but I cannot do that while speaking. And I end up sounding like B1. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| osoymar Tetraglot Pro Member United States Joined 4727 days ago 190 posts - 344 votes Speaks: English*, German, Portuguese, Japanese Studies: Spanish, French Personal Language Map | Message 11 of 21 13 March 2014 at 5:54pm | IP Logged | |||||
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@Cavesa That is absolutely one of the best techniques for intermediate-advanced
learners, but if it were me, that wouldn't be useful for the advanced level, where I have tools to express myself but want to expand my range. I tend to revert to the tried and true (but awkward) unless I really force myself to get out of my comfort zone. To be fair, I haven't tried this specific technique at the level we're talking about- just relating to my experiences speaking, writing emails, etc.- so maybe this targeted writing approach would be helpful. @Gemuse, I'm not sure I understand your problem. Can I ask if English is your first language? If you're trying to express complex thoughts, even in your first language, it's common to have difficulties. If you can only express thoughts at a B1 level in your native language (while sober), that would be extreme but potentially imaginable. This might also be a topic for a different thread, but since I don't really understand what you're getting at it's hard for me to say. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6588 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 12 of 21 13 March 2014 at 8:08pm | IP Logged | |||||
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No, Gemuse mentioned being a non-native in another thread.
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| Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 4073 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German | Message 13 of 21 14 March 2014 at 1:56pm | IP Logged | |||||
This is correct, as can be seen by the absence of the star next to English. PS: I dropped by English fluency level to basic in the profile, and changed it to "actively studying", but still in threads it is not displaying English in the Studies field (however, in my profile it is displayed right) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5757 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin | Message 14 of 21 14 March 2014 at 2:41pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Basic fluency + studying is displayed as 'speaks'.
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| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7196 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 15 of 21 14 March 2014 at 3:17pm | IP Logged | |||||
Can you read a monologue written by a woman out loud in public forum and say, "This morning when I was putting on my makeup...", and not have to add "well, not me", point at the book, and explain to your audience "her", to make sure they don't think you do girlie things? Edited by luke on 14 March 2014 at 3:19pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| sctroyenne Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5382 days ago 739 posts - 1312 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Spanish, Irish | Message 16 of 21 14 March 2014 at 5:45pm | IP Logged | |||||
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A lot of great exercises here! I was thinking of starting to do regular
résumés/sythèses of articles I read but I think doing them orally is great as well. Also not neglecting how to express myself better with everyday language (which tends to get neglected with advanced language materials and courses).
I'm not completely sure what you're getting at here (plus I'm prone to doing some "girly" things since I'm a woman). 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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