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Hekje
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 Message 473 of 568
27 January 2014 at 5:21pm | IP Logged 
Wow, that Wikipedia page warms my heart so much, you don't even know.

I also chuckled when I read that last part. You must be from the area.
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Hekje
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 Message 474 of 568
28 January 2014 at 2:32am | IP Logged 
Il faisait beau aujourd'hui. Je suis heureuse à cause de ça. En janvier, à New York,
ces jours beaux ne sont pas très fréquents.

It's funny, you know, I'm doing two Assimils at once and so I can't help but compare.
My conclusion: Assimil French is definitely way funnier than Assimil Indonesian.
Like, there's not even a contest. Every day it's like:

Assimil French: *Whoa ho ho, hilarious story about a diamond-eating rabbit*

Assimil Indonesian: "I would like to rent a bicycle or perhaps a scooter. Bicycles are
less dangerous than scooters but easier to steal. You can't have this scooter. I like
the helmet that goes with your scooter. But I cannot trade my helmet for your scooter.
Please remember to return my scooter."

Maar goed, ik heb les 26 in Assimil l'indonésien sans peine en les 17 in Assimil French
with ease afgemaakt. Ook zit ik nu op pagina 702 in De ontdekking van de hemel. Het
gaat wel goed. De ontdekking van de hemel wordt steeds ingewikkelder. Aan het einde van
het boek zal ik waarschijnlijk een korte samenvatting maken.
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1e4e6
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 Message 475 of 568
28 January 2014 at 2:59am | IP Logged 
Maar ik dacht dat in Nieuwe York, zoals in Toronto, Montréal, Ottawa, etc., het sneeuw is
de beste ding dat er men van houden kan. Of, tenminste, toen ik naar Québecstad, en ook
naar Ottawa, Toronto, en Montréal gereisd ben, er de parken en de centrums door met mijn
familie wandelde ik. Dat was in januari, waarin het temperatuur -30 tot -40 graden
maakte--in Toronto, het hoogtemperatuur maar maakt -2 C, en dat had ik wat warm gevonden.

Daarin tegenstelling tot, in Parijs in de zomer, de Antilliën, enz., waarin het
temperatuur 35 graden maakte, ben ik bijna flauwgevallen. Bijna elke dag...


Edited by 1e4e6 on 28 January 2014 at 3:10am

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tarvos
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 Message 476 of 568
28 January 2014 at 11:45am | IP Logged 
1e4e6 wrote:
Maar ik dacht dat in New York, zoals in Toronto, Montréal,
Ottawa, etc., het sneeuw is de beste ding dat er men van houden kan sentence
makes no grammatical sense, what did you want to say
?. Of, tenminste, toen ik naar
Québec City (not translated), en ook naar Ottawa, Toronto, en Montréal gereisd
ben, wandelde ik er door de parken en de binnensteden met mijn familie. Dat was
in
januari, waarin het -30 tot -40 graden was in Toronto, de maximumtemperatuur was maar
-2 C, en dat had ik (iet)wat warm gevonden.

Daarentegen, in Parijs in de zomer, de Antillen, enz., waarin het
35 graden was, ben ik bijna flauwgevallen. Bijna elke dag...



Corrected your Dutch, the grammar makes it a bit hard to read :)

Edited by tarvos on 28 January 2014 at 11:46am

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geoffw
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 Message 477 of 568
28 January 2014 at 4:43pm | IP Logged 
Hekje wrote:
Il faisait beau aujourd'hui. Je suis heureuse à cause de ça. En janvier,
à New York,
ces jours beaux ne sont pas très fréquents.

It's funny, you know, I'm doing two Assimils at once and so I can't help but compare.
My conclusion: Assimil French is definitely way funnier than Assimil Indonesian.
Like, there's not even a contest. Every day it's like:

Assimil French: *Whoa ho ho, hilarious story about a diamond-eating rabbit*

Assimil Indonesian: "I would like to rent a bicycle or perhaps a scooter. Bicycles are
less dangerous than scooters but easier to steal. You can't have this scooter. I like
the helmet that goes with your scooter. But I cannot trade my helmet for your scooter.
Please remember to return my scooter."


Not sure on this one, but "ces jours beaux" just sounds backwards to me--probably
because somewhere in Assimil they talk about "les beaux jours." Your grammar in writing
French has looked better than mine so far, so consider this a question rather than a
correction.

I've definitely seen this difference in Assimil funniness, too, in particular with
Italian. In fact, after the first week or two, the text actually apologizes for the
fact that the texts have been so boring to that point, because they were selected to
illustrate certain grammar inflections (e.g., using the full range of pronouns). And it
never got better. The lessons became more like quasi-interesting stories eventually,
but nothing resembling a joke. The Hebrew course, on the other hand, is just constant
cut-ups, and Russian isn't far behind. Dutch is criticized for being annoying, but they
at least are trying to be funny, from what I recall.
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tarvos
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 Message 478 of 568
28 January 2014 at 4:52pm | IP Logged 
The Hebrew and Russian Assimil have jokes that are hilarious.
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Hekje
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 Message 479 of 568
28 January 2014 at 5:10pm | IP Logged 
1e436 - Hmm, misschien heb ik je niet goed verstaan? Heb je gehoord dat New Yorkers echt gek op sneeuw zijn?
:-)

Daar ben ik niet zeker van hoor. Voor mijn gevoel is de witte sneeuw inderdaad heel mooi om te zien, maar
treinstoringen en vertragingen niet. New Yorkers klagen er constant over. Maar goed, New Yorkers klagen over
alles.

Montréal is inderdaad veel kouder, dat is misschien de enige reden waarom ik daar niet zou willen wonen.
Gelukkig hebben ze die tunnels onder de stad, al heb ik ze zelf niet gezien, ze lijken me wel tof. Wanneer heb je
naar Canada gereisd?

geoffw wrote:
Not sure on this one, but "ces jours beaux" just sounds backwards to me--probably
because somewhere in Assimil they talk about "les beaux jours." Your grammar in writing
French has looked better than mine so far, so consider this a question rather than a
correction.

D'oh! No, you're absolutely right of course. I remember learning BAGS in high school French now - BAGS standing
for Beauty, Age, Goodness, and Size, i.e., all the types of adjectives that go before the verb.

Thank you for the correction.

geoffw wrote:
I've definitely seen this difference in Assimil funniness, too, in particular with Italian. In fact,
after the first week or two, the text actually apologizes for the fact that the texts have been so boring to that
point

Ha!! Yeah, for a while I thought like - hey, Assimil's supposed to be funny. Maybe I'm just not getting the humor
because it's delightfully subtle and dry? But I've definitely ruled out that possibility by now.

So glad I'm not alone in this.
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Hekje
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 Message 480 of 568
28 January 2014 at 5:11pm | IP Logged 
tarvos wrote:
The Hebrew and Russian Assimil have jokes that are hilarious.

Ughhh. One day I'll join the Russian club and we'll all have good laughs together.


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