Henkkles Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4244 days ago 544 posts - 1141 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: Russian
| Message 9 of 22 29 July 2013 at 8:38pm | IP Logged |
Hmm, maybe I should dive into Japanese to provide an "objective" perspect into this discussion, as I am not a native Japonic nor IE speaker. In Russian expression the exceptions are hardest for me, the grammar not so much. If Japanese has more grammar but less exceptions I'll likely find it easier, but who knows.
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Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5047 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 10 of 22 30 July 2013 at 11:17am | IP Logged |
If Japanese had an easy alphabetical writing system, then it would be much easier than
Russian in terms of spelling and pronunciation.
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Sterogyl Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4358 days ago 152 posts - 263 votes Studies: German*, French, EnglishC2 Studies: Japanese, Norwegian
| Message 11 of 22 02 August 2013 at 12:37pm | IP Logged |
For an Italian or English native speaker, Japanese ist definitely _not_ easier than Russian. It's much harder - regardless of the Chinese characters.
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Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4659 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali
| Message 12 of 22 02 August 2013 at 10:53pm | IP Logged |
Russian sounds harsh to me,
Japanese sounds beautiful.
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Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4835 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian
| Message 13 of 22 02 August 2013 at 11:35pm | IP Logged |
Medulin wrote:
Russian sounds harsh to me,
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How does that answer the OP's question? To me, Russian sounds soft and melodious while Japanese sounds like an endless stream of syllables. Who cares?
Edited by Josquin on 04 August 2013 at 3:25pm
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Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4659 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali
| Message 14 of 22 03 August 2013 at 12:44am | IP Logged |
Sterogyl wrote:
For an Italian or English native speaker, Japanese ist definitely _not_ easier than Russian. It's much harder - regardless of the Chinese characters. |
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Are you a native speaker of Italian or English?
Edited by Medulin on 03 August 2013 at 12:44am
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dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4656 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese
| Message 15 of 22 07 August 2013 at 10:46pm | IP Logged |
Medulin wrote:
Sterogyl wrote:
For an Italian or English native speaker, Japanese
ist definitely _not_ easier than Russian. It's much harder - regardless of the Chinese
characters. |
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Are you a native speaker of Italian or English? |
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I am and I can attest to the difficulty of Japanese. The writing system certainly adds
to the learning experience, but even without that, pretty much everything about
Japanese is different.
I've never tried Russian. The extensive case system and verb conjugations sound tricky.
However, Italian has cases and plenty of irregular verbs and English is full of little
exceptions (even though the verbs themselves are fairly straightforward). So Russian
sounds like it would be just much more of the same.
I am interested in trying Russian out, so maybe I'll pop back here in ten years time
with a more considered opinion. But right now my money's on Japanese winning the
"difficulty" stakes.
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Cabaire Senior Member Germany Joined 5590 days ago 725 posts - 1352 votes
| Message 16 of 22 07 August 2013 at 10:58pm | IP Logged |
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However, Italian has cases |
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No, vulgar Latin lost them more than thousand years ago.
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