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| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4835 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes  Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 17 of 22 07 August 2013 at 11:01pm | IP Logged | ||
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In what universe does Italian have cases (except for personal pronouns)?
EDIT: Oops, Cabaire beat me to it. Edited by Josquin on 07 August 2013 at 11:07pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Victor Berrjod Diglot Groupie Norway no.vvb.no/ Joined 5100 days ago 62 posts - 110 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: Japanese, Korean, Ancient Greek, Biblical Hebrew, Mandarin, Cantonese | Message 18 of 22 07 August 2013 at 11:27pm | IP Logged | ||
Admittedly, I haven't studied Russian yet, but I found Japanese easier than French, so I'd say Japanese.
I'm curious as to why not. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4835 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 19 of 22 07 August 2013 at 11:40pm | IP Logged | ||
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I associate the concept of case with inflections on nouns and adjectives. In Japanese, however, you simply add a particle. This reminds me rather of the Indo-European system of prepositions (which, in Japanese, would obviously become postpositions) than of cases.
In return, I'd like to know why you found Japanese to be easier than French. Edited by Josquin on 07 August 2013 at 11:41pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Cabaire Senior Member Germany Joined 5590 days ago 725 posts - 1352 votes | Message 20 of 22 07 August 2013 at 11:55pm | IP Logged | ||
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Ah, the personal pronouns, I stand corrected.
So we may say that Italian has 8* words with cases, but Russian certainly more than 100.000. *) io, tu, egli, esso, ella, essa, essi, esse 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Victor Berrjod Diglot Groupie Norway no.vvb.no/ Joined 5100 days ago 62 posts - 110 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: Japanese, Korean, Ancient Greek, Biblical Hebrew, Mandarin, Cantonese | Message 21 of 22 20 February 2014 at 6:29am | IP Logged | ||
The almost complete lack of irregularity. Sorry for late answer; I didn't get the usual e-mail notification. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4880 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 22 of 22 20 February 2014 at 11:20am | IP Logged | ||
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I think there's a general consensus among educators that Japanese takes longer
for native English speakers to learn - but we've discussed before that this is different than actual difficulty. I studied Japanese to a very low level, and never thought that it was actually hard. Everything made sense to me. However, every little thing was also so incredibly new that it was a very slow process. In theory, Russian could be harder and still take less time to learn. The best analogy I have is this: I can climb the mountain behind my house in three hours, but it's a tough, muddy, slog. Or, I can reach the next town over with a six hour walk. Which is "harder?" 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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