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| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5001 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes  Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 89 of 145 21 September 2014 at 1:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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It is very clear! :-D
Nice progress, tristano. By the way, what is Methode90 like? Is it a classical course for self-teaching students like TY, just with French base or is it really different? I'd consider it for another language but I've seen noone else using the series. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4039 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 90 of 145 21 September 2014 at 2:38pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks @Cavesa!
Well, the Methode90 seems to me like a mix between Assimil and a traditional course. I cannot do any comparison with TY because I never used it, but it is organised like this: - 90 lessons, to be done one per day, for each lesson: - 1 dialogue with Dutch and French transcription - list of the new words with complementary vocabulary - grammar explanations - exercises Whether is possible to buy it with the CD, I bought only the book (that is quite cheap). I use it in a similar way I use Assimil (with the necessary adjustments since here I don't have the audio): - first I read the dialogue in Dutch, as many times as it's needed to me to understand all the understandable without looking the translation - then I read the French translation once - I re-read the Dutch dialogue and I read the translation only for the sentences which I don't understand some word - I do it until I can read the dialogue without having to watch the translation - I read the grammar explanations - I do the exercise. Currently I manage to complete a lesson in 10-15 minutes. I'm not doing them every day but usually when I do them I do two lessons, so I need between 20 and 30 minutes. I suspect it will never be really challenging for me because I'm using multiple resources to study, including extensive reading on dutch books and newspapers, but the pace doesn't seem to be too slow. It seems to me that it will give a nice introduction to the language. I think it brings the student somewhere between A2 and B1, but I cannot tell you with precision. The focus is clearly on the spoken language. I'm going to upload some pictures of it. Edited by tristano on 21 September 2014 at 3:44pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4039 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 91 of 145 21 September 2014 at 3:12pm | IP Logged | ||
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I don't know what is doing this forum's software...
Links and images don't work at all! You have a pm, @Cavesa. Edited by tristano on 21 September 2014 at 3:21pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4039 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 92 of 145 21 September 2014 at 3:40pm | IP Logged | ||
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Just a small additional note on Spanish.
I took a decision. Studying Spanish with Assimil is something similar that studying Italian with Assimil for me (Ok, I cannot write and speak in Spanish but it is not challenging at all). Let's do it differently and save 30 to 60 minutes of it dedicating them to improve my French. Since I can read El País effortlessly as well as La Sombra del Viento, like I can understand what is said to the radio, I will exclusively do that a little bit every day until my Dutch requires less study, then I will start directly with an intermediate grammar. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4039 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 93 of 145 27 September 2014 at 7:04pm | IP Logged | ||
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Can be useful somehow to log my advancement in the methods I'm using.
Le Néerlandais sans peine: 17 (passive wave) The New Dutch with Ease: 16 (passive wave) Methode90: 20 Dutch101: Lower Beginner 5 For January 1, I would like to have finished all of this. Most probably, I will be halfway. When all of this is finished, I will work only with intermediate and advanced grammars and native resources and I will be able to start another language, maybe romanian. Edited by tristano on 27 September 2014 at 8:08pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6589 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 94 of 145 27 September 2014 at 7:14pm | IP Logged | ||
I recommend adding GLOSS and lyricstraining to that. (although it's great to see you motivated to do more Dutch!) 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4039 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 95 of 145 27 September 2014 at 8:16pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thank you @Serpent!
I'm super motivated right now! It's just a shame I am here since two years and I'm not fluent in Dutch and I started studying seriously only at the end of this July. Two years in which I didn't hang out with the Dutch (despite everyone speaks good English, they still obviously prefer to speak their language. Also, with so many expats that stay here temporary they don't consider who doesn't speak Dutch). Two years in which I didn't date any lovely blond Dutch girl. Two years where I didn't learn anything about Dutch culture. All of this has to change ;) And the more I'm learning about this language that I found just horrible when first I came here, the more I start to appreciate it. So for me is a mix of ego and personal interest. Add the study and you see results. The more I advance with the language the more I feel like I have to continue at this pace in this exact moment to not lose the flow. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4039 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 96 of 145 28 September 2014 at 7:15pm | IP Logged | ||
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Le Néerlandais sans peine: 21 (passive wave)
The New Dutch with Ease: 16 (passive wave) Methode90: 23 Dutch101: Lower Beginner 7 Edited by tristano on 28 September 2014 at 8:47pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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