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| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4039 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes  Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 41 of 145 04 March 2014 at 11:04pm | IP Logged | ||
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Update
- Mandarin: I'm going with the really slow rhythm of 100 characters per month. It would be a lot better to keep a rhythm of 300 per month. This month I have to do better! - Persian: It's going well now, but I have to make a choice about how to proceed because my impression is that I can achieve more studying less. - French: no particular problems, in the class courses I'm probably one with the best pronunciation and fluency while talking but my in written French I'm not doing particularly well. I have to study the grammar in order to remember the spelling of the various conjugations! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4039 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 42 of 145 07 March 2014 at 7:13pm | IP Logged | ||
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French: This month I have the French test to access the B1 level course. I'm really confident and I have to say that thanks to all the advices I read on this forum I improved quicker then my classmates. I managed to go to lunch and having a technical conversation in French with a Moroccan colleague of mine and his Belgian manager, I'm really happy! Therefore I asked my French colleague working from France to start using French to work together after Easter. I hope I will manage to do it and to bring definitely this language as part of my everyday life just as Italian and English! When this will happen I'll probably start German ;) Persian: I decided I'll keep learning the language from a spoken perspective. My plan is now to go through all the episodes of Chai and Conversation, this is definitely working not enough for learning vocabulary (but I'll recover using Assimil for that) but a lot for keeping myself motivated (this language is LOVELY) and assimilate the sound of this beautiful language. Then I will go through the entire Assimil, after I will start with native resources most probably. Mandarin: better than from the last update, but still not enough. I'm seriously thinking to study Mandarin for the next 6 week challenge. I decided at the beginning of the year to not study the spoken form for the whole year. I probably took the dumbest decision ever. I have to say that I'm really afraid to take the wrong approach to the language and make it impossible to learn properly, this is why I've taken this choice this conservative. From my past learning activities what I've found is that the most functional activities for me are - learning by listening (context, sentence in target language first, translation in English afterwards, commands in target language at the very first steps and pure listening 75% natural speed with explanations in target language when intermediate, 100% natural speed with no explanations at all when advanced) - studying the grammar and doing drills (I love rules) In my case with Mandarin I cannot do the second since I don't know enough characters but I would really can start implementing the first one if I found a good resource for that. Portuguese: WHAT??? WAIT A MINUTE! Portuguese? How comes??? Since when? You never cared in your life about Portuguese!!! Yes it's true. Indeed I don't really think I'm serious about it. I don't even consider it as a target language. But for some reason in the last two days I started listening to a nice podcast of Brazilian Portuguese. I don't know why, I'm not even drunk :D Let's see what happens. But this is not me :P 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4860 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 43 of 145 07 March 2014 at 7:43pm | IP Logged | ||
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For Mandarin, I recommend that you watch some TV. Some of the historical series are fairly good, things like the popular Bu Bu Jing Xin. Maybe some of the Mandarin learners have more recommendations. The great thing is that you can casually get used to the sound of spoken Chinese and if you like you can look at the Chinese subtitles (all series have them) and see if you recognise any characters. It's a pleasant way of getting used to hearing the tones and maybe you'll even make some connections with characters you know and their sounds.
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| drygramul Tetraglot Senior Member Italy Joined 4460 days ago 165 posts - 269 votes Speaks: Persian, Italian*, EnglishC2, GermanB2 Studies: French, Polish | Message 44 of 145 07 March 2014 at 8:08pm | IP Logged | ||
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Dorod bar Shoma
I couldn't help noticing this quote from the other thread, but as it was off-topic there, I thought of asking you here
Isn't the ability to read Persian poetry even harder than native-like fluency? I am just curious as how you'd manage to bypass what stands between conversational Persian and poetry reading and understanding. That looks quite complicated to me. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4039 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 45 of 145 08 March 2014 at 1:09am | IP Logged | ||
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Hi, I finish answering tomorrow that I'm crazy falling asleep...
but to answer you @drygramul, yes and no. - yes if want to understand any subtlety and writing essays on that compared to ask friends how it goes and if they're happy with the weather - no if I want to understand the general meaning of texts compared to talk about the social implications of the economical crisis in post cultural decadence of the evolution of the pre-germanic post imperialism while drinking a random beer or substitute of it. Maybe I'll simply be able to talk confidentially but not to understand poetry. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4039 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 46 of 145 09 March 2014 at 1:15pm | IP Logged | ||
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After some tomorrow I answer :D
I watched the first episode of Bu bu jing xin. It doesn't resemble anything I've ever seen in my life! Thank you for the advice :) - Just a little update. I am quite confident that I'm not serious with Portuguese. The problem is that now I made the mistake to start Duolinguo with German and it's really addictive. Dammit! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4039 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 47 of 145 11 March 2014 at 11:56am | IP Logged | ||
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What happens here around: I started German as a target language.
I need more than ever to start logging, planning and optimizing. Also, a little change in my dayly routine (= I go to work by bike and not anymore with the tram) require me to change the way I'm studying Persian. Therefore I'll start working solely with Assimil as routine work. Due to my really near French exam I'll stop studying Mandarin and Persian for two weeks (with Mandarin I'll just review the characters learned so far with Anki). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4039 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 48 of 145 25 March 2014 at 10:14pm | IP Logged | ||
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Dammit, I wrote a log and something went wrong and I lost the content.
So, since I'm lazy to rewrite all I will put a brief summary. - German: Duolingo. good - Persian: Assimil. good - French: did A2 exam. hope is good - Mandarin: 5 or 10 hanzi per day. good 1 person has voted this message useful |
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