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| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4039 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes  Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 65 of 145 08 August 2014 at 8:48pm | IP Logged |
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Today babbel introduced me to the plurals that since now I thought wast just something that needs to be studied
along with the singular like the gender. False, apparently there are rules (and I expected of course to find exceptions, lot of them): - most common case: word + en - words ending with unstressed -er, -el: word + s - words ending with a, i, o (and u?): word + 's. But this third case doesn't convince me. Ok, kiwi -> kiwi's, mango -> mango's, foto -> foto's. Cool. But ui -> uien, ei -> eiren, exceptions? Or the rule is explained only superficially? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4039 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 66 of 145 09 August 2014 at 2:28pm | IP Logged |
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I'm proceeding well with Dutch.
When I will finish to go through babbel and duolingo lessons will be interesting to read again "De alchemist" to see how much more i am able to understand. I also subscribed to the 6 week challenge with Dutch, this time I want to go through it completely with a good amount of hours (Not less than 35, but I aim to 40). 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4039 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 67 of 145 10 August 2014 at 1:11pm | IP Logged |
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Dammit, I already finished the courses available for Dutch in Babbel.
I need to find another resource to do together with duolingo now. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4039 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 68 of 145 12 August 2014 at 8:28pm | IP Logged |
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Vanavond bin ik moe... alleen 40 minuten Nederlands (met Duolingo).
Gisteren nacht sliept ik vier uren omdat... ik het niet weet. Dus, het is moeilijk voor mij vandaag studeren. I zou slapen maar het is te vroeg! Ik kan uitgaan... en fietsen (zo ik ga nog meer moe zijn, daarna :) ). 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4039 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 69 of 145 19 August 2014 at 10:36pm | IP Logged |
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I had a blackout of 4 days (study, not electricity).
Meanwhile, the book I ordered (Le néerlandais débutant) is arrived. Since Duolingo demanded me to mantain some skill, I spent the entire hour for Duolingo (and I didn't finish yet! I will continue tomorrow). A quick note on Babbel. I subscribed to a full year of Dutch, ignoring that once finished the courses I was not able to simply switch language (I wanted to use it to keep French refreshed with the intermediate courses). I enjoyed using this software, but I went through the two beginner courses in only 13 days, probably also because I am a false beginner. Now, duolingo has a 20 days clause, if you ask to cancel your order within the first 20 days, you have the order cancelled and the money back. I contacted them to explain the issue I had (even if it was my own fault) and they were very kind to cancel my order and confirming the refund. For what is about the software, I think I will use it again with short subscriptions (1-3 months maximum per language) in my very first phase of language learning with an additional resource (duolingo, teach yourself, ecc). I found their method effective to bootstrap a language and it completes duolingo nicely. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4039 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 70 of 145 23 August 2014 at 7:33pm | IP Logged |
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Today I felt serious boredom while studying with Duolingo.
The most annoying feature is failing tests because my English is not so good and because I'm distracted and I do typos. The second most annoying feature is that I'm not allowed to skip anything, even if I basically don't give a ${badword} about, for example, the health competence. I'm not really interested to know that the world for surgeon is arts (although for Google Translate is chirurg, that has much more sense for me), because I didn't even know that it was called surgeon in English and I was still living happy :D But here it's my fault. I decided to strengthen this competence even if I'm not that enthusiast about it, so I should blame myself for that. So I stopped after only 25 minutes. Talking about good things, my comprehension for oral and written Dutch is increasing and I can feel it. Edited by tristano on 23 August 2014 at 7:34pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4039 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch | Message 71 of 145 27 August 2014 at 11:17pm | IP Logged |
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This evening I had my first conversation in Dutch ever, via Skype. (yes, I decided not to wait the 2016 to start
speaking at last) I was really nervous but I managed to have a conversation for 45 minutes and I discovered that I actually know much more Dutch than what I thought. A huge boost of self-trust! Meanwhile the count of the time spent studying Dutch in the 6 week challenge is 25h. Being honest, the time spent studying inefficiently this language is not a lot more than the double. It's crazy if I think that I did the crybaby more and more times with a ridicolously low amount of studying hours. Good lesson for the future (other than the present)! I'm feeling good :) 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| albysky Triglot Senior Member Italy lang-8.com/1108796Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4380 days ago 287 posts - 393 votes Speaks: Italian*, English, German | Message 72 of 145 30 August 2014 at 3:40pm | IP Logged |
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way to go , speaking at an early stage can for sure do no harm , quite the opposite you can bring together
input and interaction with natives , a very powerful mix indeed like many successful polyglots say . 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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