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tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4698 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 17 of 19 17 November 2013 at 8:38pm | IP Logged |
Serpent wrote:
True but you'll get the most out of a trip if you can understand the
cultural explanations in Italian. |
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I think not knowing the language and going to the country still beats reading it in a
book, it still gives you more tangible experience to connect to, but that is probably
more personal preference than anything. I also understand that this is not always
feasible.
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| Donaldshimoda Diglot Groupie Italy Joined 4081 days ago 47 posts - 72 votes Speaks: Italian*, English Studies: German, Russian
| Message 18 of 19 18 November 2013 at 3:42pm | IP Logged |
Sarnek wrote:
Donaldshimoda wrote:
catullus_roar wrote:
Italian songs - you'll
find that the
music is (at least in my
opinion) greatly exciting compared to the rest of Europe, and the songs from Sanremo
are especially good for learners. They're sung in a sort of soft-rap way, and have
many English translations of their lyrics online, but the clear way they're sung should
help you understand them. The following songs are a bit old but very classic of
Sanremo!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnddCs7-zqE Pensa by Fabrizio Moro, which is about the
Mafia.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgExJlYONxY Luca era gay, Povia, very controversial.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhvB734jnbg Ti regalero una rosa, Simone Cristicchi,
about mental illness.
Sanremo tends to exhibit many more songs, often by the above artists as well but I
chose these as they're more 'young' compared to some of the songs and yet follow the
same comprehensible style as opposed to slang-heavy pop or rock music... |
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Just be aware (as in every language)that lots of that soft pop songs have "weird"
lyrics in order to match metrically with the music. That could be a little bit
confusing for a learner....
For instance, a very simple sentence like YOUR EYES
spoken Italian -----> I TUOI OCCHI
within a song you could find --------> GLI OCCHI TUOI (and nobody talks like that)
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That is important as well. Sometimes you might hear "gli occhi tuoi" even in spoken
language, but you need to understand that it's done to emphasise a particular part of
the sentence, like German does.
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NEVER HEARD of " gli occhi tuoi" a single time throughout all my life..I just meant of
being aware that songs lyrics might be "insidious".
Assuming you're listening a song with "gli occhi tuoi", a beginner lerner might be
thinking he can easily switch words order as he wishes:
I TUOI OCCHI (spoken language) vs GLI OCCHI TUOI (kind of arcaic -"you'll never hear
that spoken).
Albeit he's going to be understood, he has actually learned something useless
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| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4349 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew
| Message 19 of 19 19 November 2013 at 7:54am | IP Logged |
Watch the RAI channels, if possible. For me it has many advantages.
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