Micha Triglot Newbie Germany Joined 4356 days ago 26 posts - 33 votes Speaks: German*, English, DutchC1 Studies: Russian
| Message 1 of 10 15 November 2013 at 10:13pm | IP Logged |
Hello everyone,
I realize these sort of questions are tiresome, but you knew what to expect when you clicked the link. I still
feel a bit guilty ;)
I just accepted a bet to take an A2 test in Russian in exactly one year. My wife in turn studies English and
takes a similiar test. The one with the higher score wins.
I've studied Ukrainian for two months but have no prior knowledge of Russian. She on the other hand is very
undisciplined so I thought that would make it fair.
Losing would be rather painful (I can't explain the exact terms) so I'd like some input as to how hard I need to
study. Obviously it all depends on her efforts, but what is the word from you guys on getting a good score in
one year?
I appreciate all thoughts.
Michael
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pesahson Diglot Senior Member Poland Joined 5719 days ago 448 posts - 840 votes Speaks: Polish*, English Studies: French, Portuguese, Norwegian
| Message 2 of 10 16 November 2013 at 3:53pm | IP Logged |
It's a very realistic goal. If you study regularly I don't see why you wouldn't get a good score.
If you read this forum you'll find a lot of great advice on what resources to use, how to study, etc. But really, reaching A2 in one year is perfectly doable.
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dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4656 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese
| Message 3 of 10 16 November 2013 at 11:14pm | IP Logged |
Well Deutsche Welle claim 225 hours for A2 in German. Throw in a bit extra because
Russian is harder than German (according to FSI) and call it 300 hours.
So call it 10 hours per week (given that you have an apparently incentive to do well!).
I'd be tempted to find the syllabus for this A2 test and make sure that my studying
covered the relevant areas too.
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leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6541 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog
| Message 4 of 10 17 November 2013 at 6:19am | IP Logged |
Just let her win. Problem solved.
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Micha Triglot Newbie Germany Joined 4356 days ago 26 posts - 33 votes Speaks: German*, English, DutchC1 Studies: Russian
| Message 5 of 10 17 November 2013 at 7:30am | IP Logged |
leosmith wrote:
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There are no problems, only solutions, and I don't particularly like that one.
Thanks for the replies though. I found the defintion for A2 pretty abstract so I didn't know whether I was in
way over my head or more or less realistic.
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leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6541 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog
| Message 6 of 10 17 November 2013 at 8:23am | IP Logged |
Micha wrote:
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Nice John Lennon quote. Good luck.
Edited by leosmith on 17 November 2013 at 8:32am
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Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5325 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 7 of 10 17 November 2013 at 9:28am | IP Logged |
As someone who spent 5 years on getting to A2 in Russian, I would say A2 is most certainly doable, but do
not expect it to be a walk in the park. Russian is harder than any other language I have done before. In those
5 years I had periods of up to 18 months where I was unable to do any studying, so if you manage to put in
good work every day, you should be ok. I do not know how much Russian you know already, but these are
some of the materials I have used: (keep in mind we all learn differently - what worked for me may not work
for you) You may want to talk to @tarvos who I think has had about the progression you are looking for.
Ty Russian script
Russian in your car
Pimsleur 1-3
Michel Thomas - all existing levels
Assimil (about half through the book)
Easy reader (Cyk I Gek)
A couple of Agatha Christies - where I probably only understood about 10 % but still managed to extract the
most important parts)
I have also had private lessons in Russian, but if you find someone you can talk with on Skype or face to
face, that will obviously be cheaper.
Use you iPod, and all idle time (in the bathroom, doing housework, walking, on the bus) to listen to something
Russian- related.
But the person who could probably give you the best advice here is @leosmith - he just needs to get out of
his one liner mode first :-)
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tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4698 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 8 of 10 17 November 2013 at 12:38pm | IP Logged |
I don't know, if my level after a year was A2 (and it may have been thereabouts or a
bit higher), I used far less formal materials than Cristina and far more interaction.
Part of the thing that has kept me going in Russian is the fact that I have always been
in contact with Russians, and I think this is the key part - to be exposed to the
language in natural settings where you have incentive to use it all the time.
I recommend spending the first 3-6 months on textbooks (as a function of how much time
you have to spend), but once you get past that level, you need to train your speaking
(especially if you're going to sit an exam) and if you do it properly you can do better
than A2 in my view. B1 should be doable. But I really studied quite ineffectively for
the first couple months or so, and most of my Russian has come from sources outside the
textbook world.
I would use 1-2 textbooks max, finish them, and then delve into your hobby/pastime
using Russian terminology instead of German/English/Dutch (?) The most important part
is daily use and practice. That is something you can only achieve by putting yourself
in situations where you have to read, speak, listen to and write the language.
Edited by tarvos on 17 November 2013 at 12:38pm
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