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| Ogrim Heptaglot Senior Member France Joined 4631 days ago 991 posts - 1896 votes  Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, French, Romansh, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Catalan, Latin, Greek, Romanian | Message 129 of 252 22 January 2014 at 9:56am | IP Logged | ||
The Jews have a long history in Russia, and Russian Jews count for a million of the population of Israel, most of them having emigrated once the Soviet Union disappeared. There are also many Russian Jews in other countries, notably USA and Germany. You may find this article from Wikipedia interesting. If in general you want to learn more about the history of the Jewish people and Judaism, I can recommend the book Wanderings by American Jewish author Chaim Potok. The book is from 1978, so it doesn't cover the last 40 years of history, but it is a very well written and fascinating book. In fact, Chaim Potok's novels are also well worth reading by anyone interested in Judaism and Jewish culture. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4350 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 130 of 252 22 January 2014 at 11:04am | IP Logged | ||
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Thank you, I will check it out. It's amazing how peoples' cultures and lives intertwine though history.
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| geoffw Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4680 days ago 1134 posts - 1865 votes Speaks: English*, German, Yiddish Studies: Modern Hebrew, French, Dutch, Italian, Russian | Message 131 of 252 22 January 2014 at 2:26pm | IP Logged | ||
There were many, many Jews who lived in Russia and other Russian-speaking countries. Nowadays they mostly have left and gone to places like Israel, the US, and Germany. After English, Russian is far and away the most common foreign language in Israel. In the US, wikipedia says that over 80% of all immigrants from former Soviet states are Russian-speaking Jews. EDIT: Ogrim beat me to it! By several hours it appears, but that post didn't show up until after I had posted. Weird. Edited by geoffw on 22 January 2014 at 2:28pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4350 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 132 of 252 22 January 2014 at 9:19pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks for the help geoff. The weird forum bugs are my gain in this case :)
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| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4350 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 133 of 252 22 January 2014 at 10:20pm | IP Logged | ||
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After several frustrating encounters with TY turkish, I played around with FSI and ended up finishing the first chapter just for fun. I also took a look at FSI hebrew. I thought through my textbooks and goals. Before January is over, I believe I have planned my year. Many members helped a lot with all of this.
To make a long story short, here is an updated and final list of my courses and goals. French: The verb book, and then move on to native material. Goal: to enhance passive and active skills as much as possible. Russian: To finish the assimil 1950s course. Turkish: To finish the FSI course, aided by TY as a book to be read carefully and used as reference when needed. Hebrew: To finish the FSI course, and do my best with the script. Best case scenario: I learn to speak and read/write. Worst case: I can speak but I am illiterate! No, I won't let that happen. :) Notice that my goals in the three new languages are not a level but to finish a course. I find it's the only real goal I can set, as everything else is a bit vague. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4350 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 134 of 252 23 January 2014 at 9:21am | IP Logged | ||
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Finished the second FSI unit. Some words commonly used, although some have common and some different meanings. I'll give only the greek meaning in English, for my friend Fireball dünya, ντουνιάς, world düdük, ντουντούκα, this thing 
meze, μεζές, snack börek, μπουρέκι, μπουρεκάκι, 
boyaçı, μπογιατζής, a person who paints houses for a living but, μπούτι, thigh ama, άμα, if/when boya, μπογιά, paint buz, μπούζι, freezing cold havuz, χαβούζα, sewer çorap, τσουράπι, wool socks to wear inside the house instead of shoes hoşaf, κομπόστα, sweet with fruit palto, παλτό, overcoat 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4350 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 135 of 252 23 January 2014 at 10:03am | IP Logged | ||
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Second lesson done! I have yet to write down everything, but I will this afternoon. Very smooth sailing so far. I like this assimil book. Maybe I'll finish an assimil after all. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4350 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 136 of 252 23 January 2014 at 10:30am | IP Logged | ||
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I have been carefully reading the FSI hebrew introduction, and there are some noteworthy statements in it.
The student will have to work hard. The goal of this course is performance (I love this). When the student participates in coversation easily and fluently with a minimum of either "accent" or of conscious effort then he has achieved the goal of the course (fine by me). It suggests that work on reading be postponed until unit 10 is completed. The course presents the ordinary informal speech of educated native Israelis. A large number of hours is necessary, and concetrated study is essential. Overlearning: learning sentences so thoroughly that they come out automatically. Drills, drills, drills, and then more drills. And then some more. Actual living use of the language is necessary. Use Hebrew from the start in every way possible, above and beyond the course. I like this FSI attitude, and it's all I need for Hebrew, so maybe this is a good choice of course after all. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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