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strikingstar
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 Message 73 of 102
17 December 2011 at 3:56pm | IP Logged 
Just a Dreamer wrote:
My Arabic grammar is awful :)
but I'll tell you what I remember from it
to say " I asked you not to do your work"
طلبت منك ان لا تقوم بعملك
or
طلبت منك ان لا تفعل عملك
or
طلبت منك الا تقوم بعملك
Because when "la" came after "'an" = "'a la"
but one more note:
when you pronounced 'a la
the 'a is more like a in father

and تقوم بـ
is more acceptable than تفعل
It's just sound more natural to say..

I think there is a Syrian guy here who know about grammar than me because my
poor English especially in grammatical definitions :(


."شكرا جزيل. كان ما كتبته مساعد جدا. لم أعرف عن "الا.


*Just a Dreamer*
Oops, I edited it.

Edited by strikingstar on 17 December 2011 at 4:10pm

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Just a Dreamer
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 Message 74 of 102
17 December 2011 at 4:03pm | IP Logged 
Thanks

Edited: Never Mind:)

Edited by Just a Dreamer on 17 December 2011 at 4:12pm

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strikingstar
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 Message 75 of 102
20 December 2011 at 11:48pm | IP Logged 
I got the Hans Wehr dictionary today!!! Super excited. (I know, I know, getting excited
over a dictionary.) But enough people consider it the best Arabic-English dictionary
around. The ability to use it requires an adequate understanding of the Arabic verb
system so I consider it a good sign that I'm able to use it.

For those who don't already know, the words aren't organized according to how they're
spelled. Rather, they're organized according to the word's roots. For example, if
you're looking for the word "اكتشاف" ('iktishaaf/discovery), you won't be able to find
it under alif. The only way to find it is by recognizing that it is a Form VIII sound
verbal noun with the root K/Sh/F. Thus, you'll be looking for it under "كشف"
(kashafa/to reveal). Definitely almost impossible to use without understanding the verb
system.

Okie, I'm just gonna go flick through the dictionary now.




On another note, has anyone ever used Berlitz Chinese? Does it really make you say 妈妈
骑马,马慢,妈妈吗马?

On yet another note, I discovered yet another word that Swahili borrowed from Arabic...
malaika = ملاك = angel.
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Kinan
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 Message 76 of 102
22 December 2011 at 9:45pm | IP Logged 
طلبت منك الا تقوم بعملك example which is provided by "just a dreamer" is the right and most natural one, with شدة on ل
ألّا
He is right too about your sentence طلبت منك ان لا تفعل عملك, it's never used.
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strikingstar
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 Message 77 of 102
24 December 2011 at 9:55am | IP Logged 
Kinan!! You're back!!

How are you? It's good to see you again.
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Kinan
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 Message 78 of 102
24 December 2011 at 1:54pm | IP Logged 
I am good, wishing for all this mess in Syria to end soon.
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strikingstar
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 Message 79 of 102
26 December 2011 at 11:10am | IP Logged 
Kinan wrote:
I am good, wishing for all this mess in Syria to end soon.


Hope your country resolves its situation peacefully and favorably too. Stay safe.
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strikingstar
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 Message 80 of 102
06 January 2012 at 12:48pm | IP Logged 
I'm not taking part in TAC this year. (Actually, I'm a little surprised there's no Arabic
team. Way to represent.) But that doesn't mean I can't update my log.

I finally found a use for Rosetta Stone Arabic (besides paperweight). I use it only for
vocabulary and pronunciation. I fly through the modules now because I skip everything
else. And it doesn't even matter cos I've got most of the conjugations and grammar down.

I haven't finished Harry Potter in Spanish but I'm switching to Percy Jackson for now. I
just got my hands on the first series in Spanish. I didn't even know they had the series
in Spanish. Let's hope Percy's as funny in Spanish as he is in English. Will be
interesting to see Greek mythology rendered in Spanish.


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