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dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4668 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English, Italian, French Studies: Japanese	Message 81 of 256 28 November 2012 at 11:06pm \| IP Logged
	Just a quick update after my final tuition session before Sunday's test. I had to do three cut-down exam papers (the tuition is an hour long). The Vocabulary was 94%, the Grammar was 80% and the Listening was 61%. So if I do that well on Sunday I'll scrape a pass. The Listening is still pretty hit and miss though. Sometimes I "get it" and sometimes I'm blindly guessing. (As it so happens only one of the guesses was right this time, so hopefully this is a fair reflection of where I am). Anyway, considering that when I signed up I didn't think I'd have any chance to pass and just wanted an independent assessment of where I needed to concentrate my efforts, I think I'm quite pleased. Now for some last-minute revision with renewed vigour ... 1 person has voted this message useful
dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4668 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English, Italian, French Studies: Japanese	Message 82 of 256 02 December 2012 at 11:00pm \| IP Logged
	W/E 2012-12-02 26h23m Travelled to the N5 in London today. I listened to Japanese audio all the way there and back, so, including the test, that was 7-3/4 hours of Japanese today. The test was quite hard, but not as bad as I was expecting it to be and certainly not as bad as it would have been just two months ago. The Reading part went well and the Grammar part was OK (although the last three questions were quite tricky: I knew what it all meant, but I must have missed something as none of the answers seemed to fit). The Listening part was, as expected, the hardest, but I'm quite pleased that I knew even some of it :-) As for everything else ... I've moved over to Memrise V1 (previously it was in beta). So far, so good. I've not hit any of the problems that the early adopters were complaining about and all my gardens seem to have transitioned seamlessly. Kanji are up to date (still about 20mins/day, still 50-80 reviews). In fact the Kanji section of the N5 was by far the easiest. (I can safely say that as the results will not be broken down in that much detail :-)). Even before today's marathon all-Japanese travelling session, the audio had been going well. I've started to work through the audio at mykikitori.com. There's not that much of it, but I think I'll work through it a few times until it all seems fixed in my head. 2 persons have voted this message useful
dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4668 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English, Italian, French Studies: Japanese	Message 83 of 256 07 December 2012 at 7:22pm \| IP Logged
	Well I've gone and signed up for TAC 2013. The TAC-specific log is at: http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?T ID=34475&PN=1&TPN=1 1 person has voted this message useful
dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4668 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English, Italian, French Studies: Japanese	Message 84 of 256 10 December 2012 at 8:56pm \| IP Logged
	W/E 2012-12-09 20h48m Quite a lethargic start to the week this time; probably a reaction to the N5. Nothing much to report this week, except that I've signed up to the 2013 TAC. I'm listening to the JPOD101 Lower Intermediate Season 1 lessons now: that seems like quite a step up from the beginner seasons so I think it'll take me some work to get to the point where I feel comfortable there. One thing I think I learned from the N5 is that I need to do more textbook work: the audio is very useful but there are some things I need to sit down and learn (as opposed to making plans to sit down and learn. Counters for one. So I've been working through Minna No Nihongo again. I'd completely missed the "section" exercises first time though (A, B, C, D & E). My tutor didn't though :-) So after my pass through the book I'll concentrate on whichever sections correspond to questions that I get wrong. 1 person has voted this message useful
g-bod Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5985 days ago 1485 posts - 2002 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, German	Message 85 of 256 10 December 2012 at 9:13pm \| IP Logged
	You know, I don't think I've ever sat down and learned counters properly. I can do dates, people, beer, small animals...and I just cheat and use 一つ,二つ etc for everything else! I think it's important to understand the concept of counters and how they are used, but unless you're planning on taking a shopping trip in Japan very soon, I think its probably more valuable to get comfortable with things like different verb forms. And particles (but I've still not got the hang of those yet either!) 1 person has voted this message useful
dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4668 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English, Italian, French Studies: Japanese	Message 86 of 256 10 December 2012 at 11:46pm \| IP Logged
	I doubt that I'll eve need to count people's remains (体 ) or Japanese poems (首) or even flags (棹) but I'm quite happy that I know 足(そく)! Seriously I think I'll just stop at the 16 or so in Minna No Nihongo (plus the time-based ones) and then do as you do for the rest. Then again, I keep hearing 名 (めい）instead of 人 in polite restaurant scenes ... so maybe I can find something with which to fill TAC 2013 ... 1 person has voted this message useful
dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4668 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English, Italian, French Studies: Japanese	Message 87 of 256 19 December 2012 at 11:38pm \| IP Logged
	W/E 2012-12-16 19h31m Not full ymanaged to shake off the lethargy yet and, with Christmas just around the corner, I expect that it'll be the New Year before I'm back up to speed. Looking at my log, most of the time was either Audio or Kanji, although I did manage to review the 2nd half of Minna No Nihongo I. I seem to have done very little vocabulary work lately (either memrise or anki) so I'll need to address that soon. I'm still listening to the JPOD101 Lower Intermediate lessons (I've been through Seasons 1, 4, 6 and most of 2). It's still all a bit of a blur, but I've been through this before so I expect that it'll begin to make sense on the 2nd or 3rd pass. I've ordered a few Japanese reading books for Christmas, so I'll have a little bit of reading material for TAC 2013. Quite where I'm going to find 96 other books I don't know! Films will (I think) be less of a problem. I think I need to find the general TAC rules and see what else I can do to contribute. 1 person has voted this message useful
g-bod Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5985 days ago 1485 posts - 2002 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, German	Message 88 of 256 20 December 2012 at 9:34am \| IP Logged
	I think you are conflating the Super Challenge with the Total Annihilation Challenge. The Super Challenge is the 100 books and 100 films thing. For the TAC, the aim is just to keep a log for the whole year and support your team mates. And annihilate your bad study habits! 1 person has voted this message useful

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dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4668 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English, Italian, French Studies: Japanese	Message 81 of 256 28 November 2012 at 11:06pm \| IP Logged
	Just a quick update after my final tuition session before Sunday's test. I had to do three cut-down exam papers (the tuition is an hour long). The Vocabulary was 94%, the Grammar was 80% and the Listening was 61%. So if I do that well on Sunday I'll scrape a pass. The Listening is still pretty hit and miss though. Sometimes I "get it" and sometimes I'm blindly guessing. (As it so happens only one of the guesses was right this time, so hopefully this is a fair reflection of where I am). Anyway, considering that when I signed up I didn't think I'd have any chance to pass and just wanted an independent assessment of where I needed to concentrate my efforts, I think I'm quite pleased. Now for some last-minute revision with renewed vigour ... 1 person has voted this message useful
dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4668 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English, Italian, French Studies: Japanese	Message 82 of 256 02 December 2012 at 11:00pm \| IP Logged
	W/E 2012-12-02 26h23m Travelled to the N5 in London today. I listened to Japanese audio all the way there and back, so, including the test, that was 7-3/4 hours of Japanese today. The test was quite hard, but not as bad as I was expecting it to be and certainly not as bad as it would have been just two months ago. The Reading part went well and the Grammar part was OK (although the last three questions were quite tricky: I knew what it all meant, but I must have missed something as none of the answers seemed to fit). The Listening part was, as expected, the hardest, but I'm quite pleased that I knew even some of it :-) As for everything else ... I've moved over to Memrise V1 (previously it was in beta). So far, so good. I've not hit any of the problems that the early adopters were complaining about and all my gardens seem to have transitioned seamlessly. Kanji are up to date (still about 20mins/day, still 50-80 reviews). In fact the Kanji section of the N5 was by far the easiest. (I can safely say that as the results will not be broken down in that much detail :-)). Even before today's marathon all-Japanese travelling session, the audio had been going well. I've started to work through the audio at mykikitori.com. There's not that much of it, but I think I'll work through it a few times until it all seems fixed in my head. 2 persons have voted this message useful
dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4668 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English, Italian, French Studies: Japanese	Message 83 of 256 07 December 2012 at 7:22pm \| IP Logged
	Well I've gone and signed up for TAC 2013. The TAC-specific log is at: http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?T ID=34475&PN=1&TPN=1 1 person has voted this message useful
dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4668 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English, Italian, French Studies: Japanese	Message 84 of 256 10 December 2012 at 8:56pm \| IP Logged
	W/E 2012-12-09 20h48m Quite a lethargic start to the week this time; probably a reaction to the N5. Nothing much to report this week, except that I've signed up to the 2013 TAC. I'm listening to the JPOD101 Lower Intermediate Season 1 lessons now: that seems like quite a step up from the beginner seasons so I think it'll take me some work to get to the point where I feel comfortable there. One thing I think I learned from the N5 is that I need to do more textbook work: the audio is very useful but there are some things I need to sit down and learn (as opposed to making plans to sit down and learn. Counters for one. So I've been working through Minna No Nihongo again. I'd completely missed the "section" exercises first time though (A, B, C, D & E). My tutor didn't though :-) So after my pass through the book I'll concentrate on whichever sections correspond to questions that I get wrong. 1 person has voted this message useful
g-bod Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5985 days ago 1485 posts - 2002 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, German	Message 85 of 256 10 December 2012 at 9:13pm \| IP Logged
	You know, I don't think I've ever sat down and learned counters properly. I can do dates, people, beer, small animals...and I just cheat and use 一つ,二つ etc for everything else! I think it's important to understand the concept of counters and how they are used, but unless you're planning on taking a shopping trip in Japan very soon, I think its probably more valuable to get comfortable with things like different verb forms. And particles (but I've still not got the hang of those yet either!) 1 person has voted this message useful
dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4668 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English, Italian, French Studies: Japanese	Message 86 of 256 10 December 2012 at 11:46pm \| IP Logged
	I doubt that I'll eve need to count people's remains (体 ) or Japanese poems (首) or even flags (棹) but I'm quite happy that I know 足(そく)! Seriously I think I'll just stop at the 16 or so in Minna No Nihongo (plus the time-based ones) and then do as you do for the rest. Then again, I keep hearing 名 (めい）instead of 人 in polite restaurant scenes ... so maybe I can find something with which to fill TAC 2013 ... 1 person has voted this message useful
dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4668 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English, Italian, French Studies: Japanese	Message 87 of 256 19 December 2012 at 11:38pm \| IP Logged
	W/E 2012-12-16 19h31m Not full ymanaged to shake off the lethargy yet and, with Christmas just around the corner, I expect that it'll be the New Year before I'm back up to speed. Looking at my log, most of the time was either Audio or Kanji, although I did manage to review the 2nd half of Minna No Nihongo I. I seem to have done very little vocabulary work lately (either memrise or anki) so I'll need to address that soon. I'm still listening to the JPOD101 Lower Intermediate lessons (I've been through Seasons 1, 4, 6 and most of 2). It's still all a bit of a blur, but I've been through this before so I expect that it'll begin to make sense on the 2nd or 3rd pass. I've ordered a few Japanese reading books for Christmas, so I'll have a little bit of reading material for TAC 2013. Quite where I'm going to find 96 other books I don't know! Films will (I think) be less of a problem. I think I need to find the general TAC rules and see what else I can do to contribute. 1 person has voted this message useful
g-bod Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5985 days ago 1485 posts - 2002 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, German	Message 88 of 256 20 December 2012 at 9:34am \| IP Logged
	I think you are conflating the Super Challenge with the Total Annihilation Challenge. The Super Challenge is the 100 books and 100 films thing. For the TAC, the aim is just to keep a log for the whole year and support your team mates. And annihilate your bad study habits! 1 person has voted this message useful