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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6600 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 9 of 32 03 February 2015 at 3:08pm | IP Logged | ||
Your log isn't boring :P
Maybe you need to check your timezone settings? Sounds like it's reset at midnight UTC? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| dandt Senior Member Australia regarderetlire.wordp Joined 4627 days ago 134 posts - 174 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, French | Message 10 of 32 04 February 2015 at 12:41am | IP Logged | ||
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^ Thanks serpent. Unfortunately, there isn't a time zone setting on the site, so I lodged a help ticket the other day, but I'm not exactly
optimistic. Realistically, it shouldn't be a problem if I log in the same time every day. I want to have a routine anyway. -- Just before bed I last night I was reviewing some sentences. One that had come up on duolingo was making my friend and I laugh: “Io non ho la mucca, ho il cuoio" ... I do not have the cow, I have the leather. I'm not sure how, but this sentence led to a discussion about the movie Mulan as there is the phrase 'Dishonour on your cow' in there. It might seem like a ridiculously small thing, but I worked out how to correctly phrase it in Italian all by myself. disonore sulla tua mucca. Such an important phrase. I also ordered a green moleskine notebook to use for any notes about Italian, phrases I wanted to jot down etc. I was using one for french and it became an important reference book over time, so I decided to do the same for Italian. I could really use any book, but I wanted to have continuity. Anyway, I now have a list of things I want to jot down in my book. Another thing I have noticed about my learning process this time is that I'm taking note of the articles. It sounds strange to say that, as if I hadn't in the past, but when I studied Japanese at school, we didn't have all the articles of other language, and when I studied Italian with my dad for two weeks he basically told me to ignore them, so I did. It's so much easier knowing what they all are. Right now it's a bit of a DUH realisation. Back to work today so I'm not going to be able to spend as much time studying. It's not necessarily a bad thing. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| garyb Triglot Senior Member ScotlandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5210 days ago 1468 posts - 2413 votes Speaks: English*, Italian, French Studies: Spanish | Message 11 of 32 04 February 2015 at 10:34am | IP Logged | ||
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Good luck with Italian! Your log looks interesting so far.
I also have a copy of Italian grammar drills and I'm very slowly working through it. I'm finding it quite useful as an "accessory" to my studies, and even though my level is already relatively high I'm still learning a lot of small things from the example sentences and the exercises are helping me practice the grammar. And Italian grammar requires a lot of practice! Even after three years of learning it I still sometimes mess up things like verb endings and object pronouns when I speak. I hadn't heard of Il comandante e la cicogna before, so I might check it out, it sounds fun. There are lots of Italian comedy films, old and modern; the quality of course varies, but in general they're enjoyable and useful. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| dandt Senior Member Australia regarderetlire.wordp Joined 4627 days ago 134 posts - 174 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, French | Message 12 of 32 04 February 2015 at 10:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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Spent some time writing something on lang-8 last night. Got some great corrections. I'm going to try to do more
writing regularly. Ciao. Mi chiamo Anna e ho 24 anni. Sto imparando l'italiano in modo che io possa parlare di più in famiglia. Lo sto imparando soltanto da una settimana. Voglio essere un'avvocatessa dopo la laurea. Mi piace scrivere e leggere libri. Mulan è il mio film preferito della Disney - "disonore sulla tua mucca”. Mi piace buffy l’ammazzavampiri. Nothing else to log really. I got my head around some grammar things I was struggling with. I'm feeling a bit ambivalent about learning at the moment, so I'm just doing the bare minimum today. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| eyðimörk Triglot Senior Member France goo.gl/aT4FY7 Joined 4102 days ago 490 posts - 1158 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French Studies: Breton, Italian | Message 13 of 32 05 February 2015 at 11:04am | IP Logged | ||
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Anch'io, mi piace Buffy l'Ammazzavampiri, ma credo che ciò non è una sorpresa per nessuno. I'm hoping to subtly influence the introduction of an unofficial "The Buffy Method", which is of course the listening equivalent of "The Harry Potter Method". ;)
I hear you on the ambivalence. I've been having that kind of... well, week, I suppose. I haven't been myself since Friday evening, so I gave myself the week off from language obligations to find some balance again. It has been surprisingly helpful. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| dandt Senior Member Australia regarderetlire.wordp Joined 4627 days ago 134 posts - 174 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, French | Message 14 of 32 05 February 2015 at 12:46pm | IP Logged | ||
focusing on french and it does seem to be pretty popular on here. I found an Italian dub online (here) but my subtitles don't match it perfectly. It's fairly close though, so I'm probably being pedantic. I'm considering buying the dvd, but I live in Australia, so the region won't work. Even so, I felt like I was able to learn things that are actually quite useful from the little bit of Buffy that I have watched, and knowing the show well already is such an advantage. I really want to find The West Wing or Gilmore Girls as well, but it can be a struggle to keep up with the dialogue in English and fear it would be impossible in another language! I adore Harry Potter (I literally grew up with it and was 16 when the last book came out) but I really had trouble with reading it in French. Perhaps it was just the awkward and slow beginning of the first book, and perhaps I would have been fine skipping a few chapters. I can certainly see the value of reading them as you learn a language. Buffy seems like less work though. Taking some time off seems like a good idea. I think I'm going to try it too. I did hardly any work today yet found myself putting some Italian things on in the car for a drive home tonight, when I would ordinarily play some music. I think not focussing so much is probably valuable -- All I did today was one round on duolingo and like 10 minutes of michel thomas when I was driving. I'm going to try to find some books I might want to order to read in the next few days. I'm thinking of getting some of John Green's books. I have enjoyed them in English, so reading them in Italian seems a good idea. I want to be cautious, however, because the language he uses is rarely colloquial, so I don't want to pick up pretentious phrasing from them. I guess I'll decide when I look at prices. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| eyðimörk Triglot Senior Member France goo.gl/aT4FY7 Joined 4102 days ago 490 posts - 1158 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French Studies: Breton, Italian | Message 15 of 32 05 February 2015 at 1:13pm | IP Logged | ||
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I never got into the Harry Potter craze (I was 15 when the first book made it big in Sweden so it has always had the "I'm way too grown up for this" stamp), although I have now at least read the first book in three languages... first as a parallel text English/Breton, and then in French because I found it for 0,50€ at a flea market. I don't know if it was because I had already read it in two languages, but I found it the least engaging in French. The translation felt stiff. The language is instructive, rather than descriptive, which makes the characters flat and the story doesn't hold up nearly as well without their individual voices.
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| dandt Senior Member Australia regarderetlire.wordp Joined 4627 days ago 134 posts - 174 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, French | Message 16 of 32 06 February 2015 at 3:56am | IP Logged | ||
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^ That's actually making me feel better about my inability to get into it in French. Shall try again in Italian in a few
weeks. -- I'm still feeling a little meh about studying, but I did some stuff in downtime at work this morning. Hopefully can do some more as well. I want to do as much as I can before uni starts back, and even though I might not feel as excited about it now, I can't just stop. Of course, the 6 week challenge is great encouragement - just a day or so off and I'm hours behind again. MY first duolingo review came up today. I swear that I don't remember learning some of the things that came up. Looks like I need to start going over earlier skills. I have been playing with bits of michel thomas, but it's just not working for me. I did most of the foundation program in french, so when michel asks how to say something, I tend to start saying it in french, and then I realise I'm meant to be doing Italian. I might try pimsleur as my friend has a copy that I can borrow. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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