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| picnick Triglot Newbie Canada Joined 4341 days ago 22 posts - 33 votes Speaks: Tagalog, English*, Spanish Studies: Korean, Mandarin | Message 241 of 457 01 February 2013 at 9:13pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks for the feedback Renate! Yes, looking back on it now I'm recognizing those mistakes as well haha. Also, I totally blanked out on the formal/polite version of 오다 and I conjugated it really weirdly too haha. 들어주셔서 works closest to what I meant to say :P
Also, I'm soooooooo excited for this month's challenge! My friends and I go to karaoke at least biweekly, so singing and rapping K-Pop is something very fun and familiar for me. I can't wait :D 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4860 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes  Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 242 of 457 01 February 2013 at 10:43pm | IP Logged | ||
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Future Challenges
Yes, escape from the song challenge is futile. You know the team dictator well, Evita ;) Speaking of which, if anyone else wants to formulate a challenge, let me know. We can all have a go if you like. I have a couple more ideas, but the year is long... I'm glad you're excited about the challenge, picnick! Nick씨 앞으로도 재미있는 동용상을 만들어 주겠다고 했죠... 그럼 한번 노래 불러주실거죠, 네? ㅋㅋㅋ ^^ I've just decided spontaneously that this time I'm going to try the challenge with Mandarin, my total beginner language (or maybe false beginner, since I understand some words). So excited! Picking a song wasn't easy, but I think I'll attempt 借口 (Excuse) by Jay Chou. From the translation it seems the lyrics are fairly straightforward and the words seem useful to know. I hope it didn't fool me! I originally thought of Jang Ki Ha's 싸구려 커피 (Cheap Coffee), if there's time, I'll work on that as well. Edited by druckfehler on 01 February 2013 at 11:22pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Leurre Bilingual Pentaglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5417 days ago 219 posts - 372 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Korean, Haitian Creole, SpanishC2 Studies: Japanese | Message 243 of 457 01 February 2013 at 11:40pm | IP Logged | ||
Awesome! in case you're interested, here are some corrections to the Korean part, based on your text here. I broke them down by sentence/line; adding bold parts is just too frustrating! 자, 네, 중국어를 그 정도밖에 못해서 미안해요. 이제 더 긴 자기소개를 학국말로 해드리겠습니다. 자, 일단, 저는 Nick이라고 해요. 저는 열아홉 살이에요. 12학년 생 (or 고등학교 3학년생, or simply 고3)이에요 캐나다에서는 마자막 학년이에요 네 일단, 저의 방에서 포스터가 많이많이 있는데요(or 많은데요). K팝 포스터들이에요. K팝이 아주 좋아요. 다양한 그룹도 있고: 나는 엑소와 소녀시대와 샤이니와 빅뱅과 많은 그룹이 좋아요. 그렇다면 이그룹을 좋아하는데 K팝 이외에도 한국어를 좋아하는 이유가 많아요. [한국]문화가 진짜 재미있어요. 그문화가 여기 캐나다와 미국의 문화보다 진짜 달라요. 그래서 마음에 들어요. 어색해… ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 아 어떻게(어떡해)? 학교, K팝. 내 삶에서 학교와 K팝밖에 없어요. 미안해요. 아, 외국어를 배우는거요. 저는 외극어배우는 게 진짜 좋아요. 일단, 다른 문화를 배울 수 있어요. 그외국어를 안 배우면 (그 나라의) 문화도 이해 못해요. 그리고 다른 사람 만날 수 있어요! 여기 학교에서 유학생 많이 있어요(많아요). 중국에서 오는 학생과 한국에서 학생들이 많이 왔어요(You yourself are a student, so there's no need to use 높임말 for your fellow students as in [오셨어요]). 그래서 중국어와 한국말을 배우면 그유학생이랑 얘기할 수 있어요. 네, 여기까지 봐주셔서 장말 감사합니다. 앞으로 더 재미있는 동영상을 올리겠습니다. 감사합니다! -One thing- remember that -읍니다 always has a 'ㅂ' not a 'ㅁ' => 굉장히 잘했네요. 동영상을 보니까 억양도 좋고 표현력도 무지 좋네요. 앞으로 지켜봐야겠 군 ㅋ Edited by Leurre on 01 February 2013 at 11:47pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| vermillon Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4670 days ago 602 posts - 1042 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, German | Message 244 of 457 02 February 2013 at 12:17am | IP Logged | ||
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Jay Chou is famous for singing in a very "blurry" way, which makes lyrics difficult to understand even to native speakers (at least for some songs)！
I don't think it's really a challenge (it's so recreating!), but learning a few songs is definitely part of my plan for this month! I'll go with the following: Japanese : There are three songs I love from 椎名林檎: ギブス, 罪与罚 and 本能 Korean : I have no plan initially, but I may go back to last year's songs: KCM - 알아요 (which has the most lyrics, and I still remember quite well), and perhaps easy songs that I love like 들국화 - 그것만이 내 세상 and 전인권 - 미인 Minnanhua : very important here, as I'd like to get a chance to impress this summer if I get to go to a KTV. I'm targeting a few classics (beware, apart from the first, those are absolutely cheesy, but I love them). I've started 陳雷 - 欢喜就好 which I love, and I'll probably try to tackle 朱咪咪 - 舞女, 洪榮宏 - 一支小雨伞 and Joyce Lim - 乾一杯. Classical Chinese : does a song with a few quotes from Confucius count? If yes, then 卜學亮 - 子曰. This one would actually be quite a challenge for Mandarin (and there's a bit of Cantonese in it?) given the speed and the repetition of the sound pattern. Breton : I had planned to learn this one last month, but didn't get a chance yet. Denez Prigent - Son Alma Ata Mandarin: tooooo many to choose from (I can suggest a few good and easy songs if anyone wants), but I think I'll go with 郑智化 - 大国民 for the subversive lyrics. :-) I "may" need more than February to learn all that! Edited by vermillon on 02 February 2013 at 2:34pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4860 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 245 of 457 02 February 2013 at 1:07am | IP Logged | ||
Great list of songs you've put together! 郑智化《大国民》that song is so cool! I suppose I won't get that melody out of my head for a while. Good idea to suggest some easy songs. I could try to help with that for Korean as well.
Thanks for the warning! It does sounds really slurred in some places. I suppose I won't rely entirely on him for the pronunciation then. I plan to study the words separately anyway. Maybe reciting the lyrics and asking you all to check the pronunciation and tones would be a good idea. I'm looking forward to some music in Thai and Khmer, hopefully :) Just to randomly celebrate the beauty of other Asian languages, here is my favourite Mongolian song (not that I actually know many...): Mongolian Folk Song 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| LittleBoy Diglot Groupie United Kingdom Joined 5302 days ago 84 posts - 100 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Spanish, Mandarin, Esperanto | Message 246 of 457 02 February 2013 at 1:27am | IP Logged | ||
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Before someone else does, I'm calling - 陳綺貞 - 下個星期去英國 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts-3vDbkN7I Cheer Chen - Next Week I'm Going To England) because a friend sent it to me (along with a few other songs) and I'm kind of curious to decipher it. Yes, I do simplified not traditional characters, yes there's only one line I come remotely close to understanding at the minute (我知道你想要... - I know you want to...) but I'm English (or British to avoid annoying my ancestry) and think it sounds fun.
iawia - Thank you so much for the corrections! I had come across "正在" - this is the problem I have with not activating my knowledge enough. Something to work on. Similarly, I knew the "、" mark to seperate lists, but wanted to go to bed more than find how to type it on my keyboard! Sorry, I'll have to remember that in future. 太谢谢你了! druckfehler - Not another aspiring writer, just one who likes to write (when he has time...). And let me add my voice to the chorus of moans about the song challenge! :P Edited by LittleBoy on 02 February 2013 at 1:27am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| vermillon Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4670 days ago 602 posts - 1042 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, German | Message 247 of 457 02 February 2013 at 1:42am | IP Logged | ||
I'll join, and going a bit further, to Tuva : Sainkho Namtchylak - Dance of eagle 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| billyshears66 Groupie United States Joined 4506 days ago 69 posts - 78 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Mandarin | Message 248 of 457 02 February 2013 at 2:25am | IP Logged | ||
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Interesting challenge. I'm not a huge fan of Chinese music, granted I haven't looked
hard. So my first challenge will be tracking down something I'm interested in. Any suggests for good music is welcome. I'm in for this months challenge! 1 person has voted this message useful |
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